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    Swapped a registry key value and I'm limping along again. Timed Lockout or something...set it to 10,000 minutes.

    However, let's not place the blame solely on Windows 8.1. The CRT works out of Safe Mode now...but the LG monitor still doesn't. That's still a worthless piece of crap, and I'm never buying another LG monitor.

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    Artistic license is clearly lost on you.

    It can be safely assumed that you just didn't even read it and skimmed to the bottom.

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    A few weeks ago, I had a power outage, and my server machine stopped booting. I fiddled with it, and finally changed the battery, and it started booting again. I got a new battery for it, and it stopped working again. It doesn't even post.

    I was having motherboard problems, so I replaced it with a $25 upgrade. It's still not booting, though. Is there any easy/cheap way to tell if the problem is the CPU, case (i.e., wiring), or power supply?
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    If you checked no cables and wires are loose, then it's not the case. The case is just a box keeping the components in place, and it's not really connected to the functional parts of the computer aside from power and reset buttons and leds. CPU is hard to test individually unless you have another compatible computer, and even then it would be a pain in the ass with all the CPU cooler removing and reinstalling. But since you already replaced the mobo, it means if everything else works, then the CPU is the culprit. PSU you could also test with another computer and much more easily than a CPU. It's also possible to test the PSU rudimentarily totally outside of the computer. You'd just need to short-circuit two specific wires of the big mobo connector, which is a signal to the PSU that the computer is turned on. After that you could test there's current available in the various cables with a multimeter, spare fans, and whatever runs with the available voltages.

    PSU problems are annoying in the sense than when a PSU dies, it can take a bunch of other things with it. The cheaper the PSU, the higher the danger.

    Other than that, you could try to remove all removable components one at a time and see if it makes any difference. Unless you already did that.

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    Do you mean you changed the CMOS battery? Based on the power outage, I'd say it's the PSU. Do you have a spare PSU you can swap out?

    As for the case, like Kraco said the case wiring probably isn't the issue. Maybe there's a short where part of the motherboard is contacting the case. Most motherboards have indicator lights to show they are receiving power, do you see that light?


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    Yeah, I meant the CMOS battery.

    Update: I got a new PSU today, and it's still showing the symptoms. It seems like maybe the computer got a little further along in the boot process (maybe), since the symptoms were slightly different. The computer powers on for about 1-3 seconds, and then restarts. So, I see the fans spin up, hard drive come on, etc. And then it all stops for a few seconds, and then it restarts. I fiddled with it for a while, and now it won't even do that much. This is with a new motherboard and PSU.

    I hear what Kraco said, but I am still concerned the problem is the "case" -- by which I mean the power switch or its wiring.

    The old motherboard has lights, and they came on. The new one doesn't have lights, as far as I can tell.

    It's definitely either the CPU or switch or RAM (FFS...).

    Addendum: It turns out you can test the power switch by plugging the reset switch in its place on the mother board. Still have problems. So it's either the RAM or CPU.

    FFS, I'm not excited about that. I really wish I knew which it is. If I knew it was the CPU, I'd just get a Core 2 Quad to replace the e5200 dual core. But now I feel like I have to hedge with a 20$ Core 2 Duo in case I need to replace the RAM too.
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    I would point to the CPU. When RAM fails (among many other things) the motherbard gives some beeps warning. You can mount the motherboard outside the case and turn it on by making contact on the power pins (with a screwdriver for example). First time you do it only with CPU to see what it does (should give beeps depending on what components it lacks) and then you go adding components one by one.

    http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm
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    Yeah, that makes sense. It's not getting anywhere near far enough to POST, so the motherboard probably isn't getting far enough to check for memory.

    I bought a Core 2 Duo E6600. I'll get a Core 2 Quad Q6600 in a few months, maybe. I have enough spare parts to almost build a new one. All I will need is the new processor for mine and some RAM for the old motherboard.

    Is Win XP the one where microsoft started making it impossible to swap the motherboard out from under it? (Mom's computer is about a quarter as fast as mine)
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    It's all possible as long as you ring MS and let them know what's happened. I thought it was Vista though, since that's when they started really making activation "mandatory".

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    Dunno what's impossible considering I took a Win 7 installation on a HDD from my previous computer, cloned it onto an SSD and jammed it into a system with a new mobo, new CPU, new RAM, new PSU and a new case. Only the video card and the DVD drive remained the same. As an added extra the old PC was AMD and the new one was Intel. Win 7 told me it suspected the hardware had changed (quite a Sherlock), and required reactivation. So, I needed to press the single button in the computer properties and it reactived automatically. Office 2010 wasn't as agreeable and I needed to make a most annoying phone call to MS and talk with a robot, but all in all it wasn't such a huge a thing either to get reactivated.

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    @poopdeville; I have a Q6600 I don't use, and 6GB of RAM that's compatible. Yours for the cost of shipping.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    @poopdeville; I have a Q6600 I don't use, and 6GB of RAM that's compatible. Yours for the cost of shipping.
    Wow Ani, I'll definitely take you up on that. PM sent. Thank you!
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    Can any of you recommend a ramdisk software? Preferably one that mounts upon boot.

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