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    Quote Originally Posted by February
    I seriously had an OMFG heart attack moment when I read it...but that excitement just seems gone now in the anime
    That's because the way they did it in the anime was pretty dull.

    Naruto: That's what we were waiting for Kakashi?
    Kakashi: That's right, my new Sharingan.

    Didn't show any emphasis or anything. it would have been better if they simply had Kakashi say "I'm ready Naruto" and then open his eye and then end it.

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    What...the...fuck?

    How...how can he even have that? He doesn't even HAVE any friends to kill!


    I don't know how Chiyo survived. Wasn't she also poisoned? Shouldn't she be dying of poison now?

    Also, going "Oh, I've got a super technique that brings people back to life but kills me" and then going "Oh but I'm not gonna die" kinda undercuts the coolness of the technique. You might as well just call it the "Heal everything but death with no cost" technique.

    So glad that battles over though.

    Onto the Mangekyou Sharingan that I don't understand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    What...the...fuck?

    How...how can he even have that? He doesn't even HAVE any friends to kill!
    How does killing a friend magically grant you a new ability? If there's any logic behind that requirement, then it would be to first feel like shit because you killed a friend just to get more power, and consequently, if you survive that miserable feeling, you would become desensitized: No price is too high for power. That, I suppose, could be the key. Yet, things like that doesn't sound very exact to me, and I've always thought such a bizarre requirement should be possible to bypass with time and arduous research.

    Besides, was it even Mangekyou sharingan? Or something else?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    I don't know how Chiyo survived. Wasn't she also poisoned? Shouldn't she be dying of poison now?

    Also, going "Oh, I've got a super technique that brings people back to life but kills me" and then going "Oh but I'm not gonna die" kinda undercuts the coolness of the technique. You might as well just call it the "Heal everything but death with no cost" technique.
    She just said Sakura wasn't dead, only injured. So, it makes sense it won't necessarily take all of the geezer's life to revive her somewhat. Besides, Sakura already healed herself somewhat before that, as well.

    And the poison takes days to kill. And it's somewhat likely Chiyo has a higher tolerance for poisons than regular people. She has probably eaten them voluntarily all her life to build up resistance.

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    I don't think Kakashi's new sharingan in the mangekyou.. it looks different...
    Besides... Kakashi told Itachi's clone-thingy that the mangekyou screws up your eyesight. I don't see Kakashi resorting to that.

    If you type mangekyou sharingan in google, the fist thing you'll see is Itachi's mangekyou.. it's totally different. I didn't use the image search, b/c possible spoilers.. just the regular search should show the images.

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    Nice episode.
    Some little more of Sasori's past before his death was nice. So he really didn't know his parents were dead... I guess when he found out he must have begun his plan to leave or whatever.

    Sharingan = cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    How does killing a friend magically grant you a new ability? If there's any logic behind that requirement, then it would be to first feel like shit because you killed a friend just to get more power, and consequently, if you survive that miserable feeling, you would become desensitized: No price is too high for power. That, I suppose, could be the key. Yet, things like that doesn't sound very exact to me, and I've always thought such a bizarre requirement should be possible to bypass with time and arduous research.
    Well, I don't actually know. All I know is they've said like 3 times in the series now that to get Mangekyou Sharingan you have to kill your best friend. So until they say otherwise I'm going to just take their word for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Besides, was it even Mangekyou sharingan? Or something else?
    I...hmm, now that you mention it, it does look a bit funny. Anyone want to post pictures of both?

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    Well im bored so..
    Kakashi's Sharingan


    Itachi's Sharingan


    There certainly is some difference but there are similarities aswell...
    Makes me think, does all sharingans/mangekyo sharingans look identical or can they vary from person to person?
    Also, maybe its different simply because Kakashi isnt the original owner or because he isnt an Uchiha.. some1 pop in with some more ideas plz :P
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    If it's MS, then it would put the interpretation of kakashi's whole conversation with itachi up in the air, wouldn't it?

    For example:

    Kakashi: <lists flaws with MS>
    Itachi: How perceptive of you, I'm impressed.
    Kakashi: Itachi....how bad has your eyesight gotten?
    Itachi: Kakashi....you couldn't have..... (obtained MS OR realized I'm going blind)
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    maybe they look different because of the way the obtained it
    itachi killed everyone he "loved" etc.
    and...well, i can't believe kakashi did the same....

    and does kakashi really has to focus for like 30 minutes to get the mangekyo?


    or maybe it has to do something with the jutsus someone can use.... since Kakashi is good at using nin-jutsu (if i remember correctly, kakashi trained his speed at forming seals) he might got the "nin-jutsu" version of the sharingan, while itachi has got the gen-jutsu version ^^

    edit: btw sasori is cool... he even dies in such a cool way... i liked the way he stopped speaking :/ like a malfunctioning robot
    i m so sad that he died.. since he was/is one of the coolest characters i ve seen in animes so far :/
    the background music after his death was nice too :P

    but i have a question.... what are these drawnings on the ground? looks like a summoning circle, but what did chiyo summon? dont tell me it was the father / mother puppet again
    Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 08-31-2007 at 04:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    Well, I don't actually know. All I know is they've said like 3 times in the series now that to get Mangekyou Sharingan you have to kill your best friend. So until they say otherwise I'm going to just take their word for it.
    I...hmm, now that you mention it, it does look a bit funny. Anyone want to post pictures of both?
    We only heard it from one source, Itachi, who's pretty much disturbingly insane... how reliable can any information he gives be?

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    Gaara should stay dead. I'm getting real sick of them using some crazy Medical Deus ex Machina no Jutsu to keep any protagonist under the age of 60 alive after what is surely a fatal fight...

    I don't care if he's Bijuu Butt Buddies with Naruto, bringing him back would just deflate what little drama this arc has had so far outside of three or so decently animated fight sequences.

    Besides, Chiyo already used a bit of her life to save Sakura. Sakura wasn't fully dead, but Chiyo giving her her life energy to prevent her from dying shouldn't leave her with enough energy to bring Gaara fully back. He'd be like a zombie or need to sleep twelve hours a day with not a full energy tank... I can't imagine that Chiyo's wrinkly old body has enough life in it for two young people... If she does bring Gaara back, I'd like to see him just drop dead a year or two later, and people be like, "Yeah, he had half of a 90+ year old woman as his life energy, what did you expect?"

    but then again... it does sound perfectly akin to some of the lame stuff they tend to throw into shounen series...

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Gaara should not be able to control sand without shukaku, otherwise other sand ninja would be doing it. Also, it was stated (although subtly), earlier in the Sasori fight that the 3rd Kazekage's iron sand attacks were imitated off of a previous shukaku jinchuurriki, which suggests that sand control has always been a unique ability passed between that line of jinchuurriki.

    At the very least, he definitely should not have the automatic self-defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    How does killing a friend magically grant you a new ability? If there's any logic behind that requirement, then it would be to first feel like shit because you killed a friend just to get more power,
    Ow my god... did you forget how goku became a super saiyan.

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    I think that since we haven't seen Itachi and Kakashi use identical Mangekyou sharingan techniques, that there is the possibility that the sharingan changes appearance depending on which of the Mangekyou required jutsus are used. Itachi's MS has only been seen when using Tsukiyomi, and we haven't seen it while using Amaterasu (black flames jutsu he uses to escape Jiraiya's toad). If Kakashi ever uses Tsukiyomi, we can prove or disprove this depending on if his eye takes on Itachi's MS appearance.

    As to how he acquired the MS, Kakashi could have "hacked" it by studying his sharingan and remembering how Itachi's sharingan acted. Kakashi already has the sharingan prerequisite, so he could easily just fiddle around with it and figure out a loophole. Or Kakashi could have met the requirement for his intense guilt at the fact that his best friend died to save him.

    Try not to mention things not yet covered in the anime, as they do qualify as unknown spoilers for the anime-only folks. Thanks.
    Last edited by masamuneehs; Mon, 09-03-2007 at 06:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    How does killing a friend magically grant you a new ability? If there's any logic behind that requirement, then it would be to first feel like shit because you killed a friend just to get more power, and consequently, if you survive that miserable feeling, you would become desensitized:
    Yeah, I dont understand the logic behind it either, people have been saying that the guilt creates some sort of mental trauma which affects your bloodline ability?
    Even so, if you killed your family member, wouldnt it serve the same effect? Since I would be just as horrified to kill my parents as it is to kill my best friend and same weight in guilt.
    This requirement is unreasonably unrealistic

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    kakashi did learn the mangekyo sharigan but it's his own version and remember they call him the "copy ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroshi01
    kakashi did learn the mangekyo sharigan but it's his own version and remember they call him the "copy ninja"
    He can copy jutsus, the Mangekyou Sharingan is not a jutsu. It's an eyeborn power you could say. You can't just obtain sharingan by copying it, but by stealing the secret. And that happens with dissecting the body or some sorts. (The Hyuga story )
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