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    Gore, good story, realism and tragedy?

    I'd say this season's RAINBOW Nisha Rokubou no Shichinin pretty much fill that slot.

    It's more like realistic depiction of violence than gore, so I'm sure when/if bloody scenes show up, I'm sure the blood will be in realistic quantities. At this point, "tragedy" may be a bit strong a word, but it's certainly a bit depressing, and rather dramatic.

    I'd tell anyone to give this a go actually, but I think it fits your requirements rather well.

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    Thanks Bill.. I'll get on that when I'm done with Eden of the East, which doesn't really fit into my description but it is a pleasant little series. Your suggestion looks right up my alley though.

    So does no one else have interest in violent or realistic/tragic anime? WHERE ARE YOU RYLL??
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Heretic Azazel View Post
    Thanks Bill.. I'll get on that when I'm done with Eden of the East, which doesn't really fit into my description but it is a pleasant little series. Your suggestion looks right up my alley though.

    So does no one else have interest in violent or realistic/tragic anime? WHERE ARE YOU RYLL??
    Based on this I'd recommend Shikabane Hime Aka followed by Shikabane Hime Kuro.

    There pretty tragic but not overly realistic as its based on a supernatural concept where a priest uses a dead girl bound to him in order to kill other dead people who have died but been unable to rest thus turning into monsters due to a regret they hold from life.

    I'd directly recommend against Saikano though. I watched it based on some recommendations in here and I found it very hard to finish the series as it dragged and was WAY over melodramatic. Still its somewhat along the lines of what you asked for its just a real slog to watch with overall very little action and instead the focus being directly on the melodrama of the people involved.

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    If you don't mind tragedy mixed with romance you might try Saikano. I was recently made aware of it (I think by Ryllharu actually) and am planing to give it a try as it was recommended because it's supposedly to be emotionally powerful and dark.

    EDIT @ BELOW: I think Ark has a point, if White Album seemed to be shaping up into a fairly realistic, or at least more serious romantic drama from the 3 episodes I saw.

    Another show in a similar but not as serious seeming vein would be Kimi ga Nozomu Eien. It's somewhat tragic in that all the characters suffer psychological scaring of some sort at multiple points and there is a lot more serious consideration given to the kinda of hard choices that are often played for laughs in harem shows.
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    I'm not sure because i never watched it myself but white album might possibly fill your requirements as well

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    White Album does not fit. It watched all of it. It is all angst and no tragedy.


    Realism and tragedy are honestly pretty rare when combined. The vast majority of the good tragedies have a lot of supernatural elements to them. The larger problem is that revealing that the series is a tragedy would be a massive spoiler (I will not include the two or three series that that would be, and you've most likely seen them anyway).

    ef - a tale of memories (not supernatural)

    ef - a tale of melodies (supernatural)

    Chrno Crusade (supernatural, but violent)

    Ga-Rei: Zero (supernatural and very violent, get the dvd versions)

    Higurashi (violent, sort of realistic, occasionally tragic)

    NANA (tragedy, realistic, series primarily written for a female audience)

    RahXephon (heavy sci-fi first, tragedy second)

    Saikano (as mentioned above. It is a tragedy first, and a heavy sc-fi romance right behind)

    Shigofumi (supernatural)

    Solty Rei (tragedy of a sort, but deeply set in sci-fi)

    AIR (highly supernatural)


    Bokura ga Ita (also a has some tragic elements to it, but it is primarily an angsty romance series)

    Kimi ga Nozomu Eien (exactly the same as Bokura ga Ita, romance with more angst than tragedy)

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    Okay, recommendation needed.

    Im looking for anime with teenage boys/young men as lead characters, that are socially incompetent and feel left out, but then suddenly somehow get into bigger happenings. Examples from the top of my head would be Chaos Head or Welcome to the NHK. Anything else like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Okay, recommendation needed.

    Im looking for anime with teenage boys/young men as lead characters, that are socially incompetent and feel left out, but then suddenly somehow get into bigger happenings. Examples from the top of my head would be Chaos Head or Welcome to the NHK. Anything else like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Wait a season for The World that God only Knows
    haha, okay, thx, that sounds awesome.

    But I was actually looking for less comedic shows

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Im looking for anime with teenage boys/young men as lead characters, that are socially incompetent and feel left out, but then suddenly somehow get into bigger happenings. Examples from the top of my head would be Chaos Head or Welcome to the NHK. Anything else like that?
    Now and Then, Here and There

    Sora no Otoshimono (there is lots of humor, but the undertones are pretty serious, especially when you get into the upcoming second season)

    Eureka 7

    Peacemaker Kurogane

    Le Chevalier D'Eon

    Black Lagoon

    Busou Renkin

    Elfen Lied

    Kono Minikuku mo Utsukushii Sekai

    Last Exile

    Outlaw Star

    Neon Genesis Evangelion


    Saber Marionette J (humor at the beginning, none toward the end)

    Solty Rei (old guy)

    Summer Wars (movie)

    Venus Wars (movie)

    These will probably fit the bill. The concept you want has more prevalence in manga I think.

    Series I am less sure about (because I haven't seen them):

    Fantastic Children

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    Lol i fucking fail at this, i couldn't even think of Evangelion...

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    What makes matching this challenging is the vague nature of the main character. Socially incompetent and feeling left out can be defined very broadly. Here are some possibilities:

    11eyes - seems like the protagonist only has 1 friend so...
    Aquarion - protagonist behaves like an animal placed in a new environment
    Crest of the Stars - protagonist definitely feels left out due to certain circumstances in the beginning
    BECK: Mongolian Chop Squad - Loser joins a band
    Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure - Loser gets a mecha
    Kaiji - guy in debt gets trapped in a life or death game
    Kiba - Emo loner goes to a new world
    Linebarrels of Iron - Bullied kid gets superpowers
    Natsume Yūjin-Chō - Feels dislike towards humans because of special ability
    Over Drive - Loser finds talent in a sport
    Pandora Hearts - protagonist with mysterious past that makes him distant from other people
    Princess Resurrection - Loser meets his princess
    Pumpkin Scissors - Relic of war period in times of peace
    Texhnolyze - Socially inept guy gradually getting involved in larger things
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Aquarion - protagonist behaves like an animal placed in a new environment
    Crest of the Stars - protagonist definitely feels left out due to certain circumstances in the beginning
    BECK: Mongolian Chop Squad - Loser joins a band
    Pumpkin Scissors - Relic of war period in times of peace
    I can't comment on the others because I haven't seen them to verify, but Aquarion, he's already pretty special in the first place, same for Pumpkin Scissors. Those don't really fit what MFauli was looking for, a protagonist thrust into extraordinary circumstances coming from humble or an outsider's place in the world. Being special to begin with, the world gets drawn to them, or they get dragged back into it.

    Crest of the Stars isn't truly about Jinto, so that isn't a great fit either. He's just kind of scenery.

    As for Beck, I wouldn't really call him a loser. He just doesn't have any idea what he wants to do with himself. I suppose in one respect that would fit the request, but in another, he's just drawn from his normal hum-drum life into the life of a guy in a band. I wouldn't categorize it as being pulled into "bigger happenings," just different ones. A lot of the stuff they do is pretty run of the mill.

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    I thought that as long as they were socially incompetent and feeling left out it would suffice. If these are the only conditions, being special should not disqualify them. In fact, it is more likely for special people to be unable to blend in. If he said that they had to be normal, then you would be right.

    Also, even if they are drawn back to it, or if they draw the world to them (which was what happened in Chaos Head, one of his examples), it would not change the fact that they "somehow get into bigger happenings".

    Crest of the Stars is about Jinto and Lamhirh. Jinto is not "scenery" at all. It is the interaction and development between those two that make up the show.

    As for Beck, I guess it depends on one's definition of "bigger happenings". I simply thought going into a band, meeting and playing/singing with rock stars, and touring is a lot bigger than being a normal kid in high school.

    Like I said in my post, the vagueness of the request allows for a lot of leg room in choosing recommendations. We just interpreted it differently.
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    RahXephon fits I think.

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    As for Beck, I guess it depends on one's definition of "bigger happenings". I simply thought going into a band, meeting and playing/singing with rock stars, and touring is a lot bigger than being a normal kid in high school
    especially since he becomes such a great singer and guitar player that he draws thousands of fans to the stage...

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    I thought that as long as they were socially incompetent and feeling left out it would suffice. If these are the only conditions, being special should not disqualify them. In fact, it is more likely for special people to be unable to blend in. If he said that they had to be normal, then you would be right.
    I'll concede to this point.

    Keep in mind that there is an implied negative tone to the request (primarily because it is MFauli and secondly because of the request to avoid humorous series). A male lead was specified, requiring more thought to the request than it appears. The ideal would be a variety of shoujo series (X TV, Ayashi no Ceres, Fushigi Yugi, etc).

    But Pumpkin Scissors and Aquarion still don't fit. Orlando isn't the main character of Pumpkin Scissors, Alice is. She is the one dragged into things over her head (or walking right into them). Aquarion has the same problem. Apollo doesn't have any character development, the rest of the cast does, mostly Silvia. Also, when you get down to it, Aquarion just isn't that good of a series, it's just generic.

    Beck is upbeat (before you argue, the anime is).

    Jinto does nothing in the first series. He is dragged along like a sad puppy. He is very much scenery. He contributes nothing, his opinion means little, and the interaction of trying to understand each other doesn't mean "bigger happenings" as far as he is concerned. He is tangentially involved at best. Lafiel is the star of that series, violating the male lead specification of the request. So Crest of the Stars still doesn't work. Banner...maybe.


    Pandadice is right, RahXephon fits. If I included Evangelion I should have included RahXephon as well. I should be ashamed I forgot it.

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    I didn't really consider the implied negative tone or that all the events have to revolve around the "main character". If you say that the conditions include those, then you are correct about Pumpkin scissors and Beck. I agree that Aquarion is a generic series anyway, so I won't even think about it anymore.

    About Crest of the Stars, Jinto is definitely an integral character. Without him, Lamhirh would have died numerous times, and his opinion and presence does matter, since a lot of the plot events involve him (especially when they got to solid ground). Still, if you say that the series has to be mostly about the male character alone, then you would be correct in excluding this. This is about the relationship between Jinto and Lamhirh after all.
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    I finished watching through all of the Crest/Banner of the Stars series. Jinto is definitely scenery in Crest and the first Banner of the Stars. Banner of the Stars 2 and 3, not so much as those arcs were pretty much dedicated to him. Sure there would be grave situations for Lafiel without him, but when watching Crest and the first Banner you really get the feeling of "Yeah, this is Lafiel's story, Jinto's just along for the ride".


    That aside, looking for a recommendation of my own. I was over at my friend's place the other day and he was watching the Seirei no Moribito and it got me thinking about wanting a series similar to the relationship that Balsa and Chagum had. I doubt something like it exists besides maybe Scrapped Princess (which I've watched and even then, hardly qualifies), and Tokyo Magnitude 8.0

    So yeah, I'm looking for a series where the younger male character is led/nurtured by either an older sister (or non-related equivalent) or a person taking over the maternal role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animus View Post
    That aside, looking for a recommendation of my own. I was over at my friend's place the other day and he was watching the Seirei no Moribito and it got me thinking about wanting a series similar to the relationship that Balsa and Chagum had. I doubt something like it exists besides maybe Scrapped Princess (which I've watched and even then, hardly qualifies), and Tokyo Magnitude 8.0

    So yeah, I'm looking for a series where the younger male character is led/nurtured by either an older sister (or non-related equivalent) or a person taking over the maternal role.
    Check out Michiko to Hatchin. Great series.
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