Naruto Chapter 376

[kAi]

That would be a logical choice. Here is my problem. The great sage toad says that the child will bring peace to the world, or destroy it. On the last page, the hermit toads say that "yer the one who'll cause the destruction of the world" as they are talking to Pein. So doesn't that mean Pein is the reference of the Great toad?

It doesn't necessarily mean that Pein is the destined child, even if Jiraiya said "yer the one who'll cause the destruction of the world", he could just have it mixed up and confused it with Pein as he's the biggest threat at the moment.

I'm not saying that Pein is not the destined child, it's that Kishimoto has left it open for discussion.

[DB_Hunter]

Anyone else thinking Vader, Luke and midi-chlorines?

[Viscero]

Anyone else thinking Vader, Luke and midi-chlorines?

Heh, that's exactly what I was thinking. They thought Anakin would bring peace to the world but it ended up being Luke. So... Pein is Anakin and Naruto would be Luke. Heck they keep talking about Naruto... how everyone he meets becomes his friend and he'll bring peace to the world (they especially talk about this in the more recent shippuden episodes). The Naruto manga has too many repeating storylines.... History just keeps repeating itself.

[February]

Pain said that each of the Sannins have their own "unique ability"
Now, this chapter introduces the hermit mode as Jiraiya's
But what is Orochimaru's? The ability to prolong life? To summon the dead?
Tsunade's? Her chakra-saving forehead ability?

I hope we get to see something more cool than just detection and snake attack from the hermit mode.....it just feels like 2 talented frogs glued to Jiraiya's shoulders so far..

[Assertn]

Well of course the point is to think Pein is the destined child. I think the two frogs even mentioned it when they were asking Jiraiya why he was fighting him.

I'm just saying that maybe they were wrong in their presumption...since the sage never explicitly stated which student would be the destined child.

[KCMmmmm]

Heh, that's exactly what I was thinking. They thought Anakin would bring peace to the world but it ended up being Luke. So... Pein is Anakin and Naruto would be Luke. Heck they keep talking about Naruto... how everyone he meets becomes his friend and he'll bring peace to the world (they especially talk about this in the more recent shippuden episodes). The Naruto manga has too many repeating storylines.... History just keeps repeating itself.

Actually, I always thought that Anakin was the chosen one, who "brought balance to the force". Originally, the force was dominated by good guys, until Anakin wiped them all out, evening the balance. But, there are many ways to read into it, I guess.

I'd like to think Naruto is the misunderstood and unexpected "chosen one", but if he is, it would be way too cliché. I don't know. It might also be referring to the Fourth Hokage, or one of his two teammates, right? But not likely one of them.

[Abdula]

Actually, I always thought that Anakin was the chosen one, who "brought balance to the force". Originally, the force was dominated by good guys, until Anakin wiped them all out, evening the balance. But, there are many ways to read into it, I guess.

I'd like to think Naruto is the misunderstood and unexpected "chosen one", but if he is, it would be way too cliché. I don't know. It might also be referring to the Fourth Hokage, or one of his two teammates, right? But not likely one of them.

Great point I didn't know anyone else thought that way about Anakin and its a great analogy of this situation. First of all I don't consider Naruto to be Jiraiya's student, compared to Pein and the Fourth, it always seemed like Jiraiya just trained Naruto for a little simply because it was nostalgic as Naruto reminded him of Minato he doesn't seem to consider Naruto his student. So Naruto being the choosen one is way too cliché and completely out of the question, The Anakin comparison explains this perfectly as linear thinkers always believed the prophecy was wrong because Anakin didn't bring peace to the Universe blah, blah, blah but Anakin's actions set events into motion that eventually led to the inevitable conclusion..

The prophecy could be about Pein or Minato or even both because if not for Minato, Naruto would not have The Kyuubi there maynot have even had a viilage without him and If Pein is the Leader of Akatsuki then without him there would be no Akatsuki so Jiraiya training Naruto, Orochimaru meeting Itachi, Itachi coming back to the Leaf and meeting Sasuke, etc, everything after the Zabuza arc is a direct result of Akatsuki. So while I know that most likely idiotic Naruto is going to save the cheerleader/save the world, the prophecy is definitely about Pein because whether the world is saved or destroyed the outcome will be a direct result of his actions thus fulfilling the prophecy.

Do we now that Madara (Tobi) is the real leader of Akatsuki? And i'm not sure that tobi should be Madara. Does somebody said that? He just said, that his eye(s) are those from Madara. Or am I wrong?

It was explicitly stated that Pein is the leader of Akatsuki whether he works for or with Tobi doesn't matter. I don't want Tobi to be Madara either as that would require another lame immortality jutsu or its equivalent so until we're told Tobi is Madara, Tobi is just Tobi

Pain said that each of the Sannins have their own "unique ability"
Now, this chapter introduces the hermit mode as Jiraiya's
But what is Orochimaru's? The ability to prolong life? To summon the dead?
Tsunade's? Her chakra-saving forehead ability?

I hope we get to see something more cool than just detection and snake attack from the hermit mode.....it just feels like 2 talented frogs glued to Jiraiya's shoulders so far..

I'll give you Tsunade her regeneration ability was pretty lame but Orochimaru come on dude he had so many different abilities hence why he was so feared and I don't think Jiraiya went into hermit mode just for that the real battle is just about to begin so just wait.

[Garhert]

It was explicitly stated that Pein is the leader of Akatsuki whether he works for or with Tobi doesn't matter. I don't want Tobi to be Madara either as that would require another lame immortality jutsu or its equivalent so until we're told Tobi is Madara, Tobi is just Tobi

Good thx... that's what I wanted to know.

But by the way... Tobi act like a fool in my opinion. So I don't want to accept that he is Madara... Madara should be more seriously.