Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
Yes shadow clones are only a diversion that is my point, they would only be a diversion that would come at the cost of a large amount of charka that wouldn't necessarily do anything because even if he does divert the attention of the original Pein it wouldn’t matter much because he is not fighting clones the jutsu wouldn’t disperse with one hit because he already landed a major hit before than didn’t really have a major effect, not to mention the fact that his clones can be easily destroyed, Pein could easily destroy them with the summons he keeps using which wouldn’t even be necessary all he needs to do is hit them with a kunai.

We have already seen how the rinnegan is better than the Byakugan three points of view>one point of view. I think you are thinking about this battle the wrong way, Jiraiya is not fighting one opponent now he is fighting three different ones, and they are summons not clones so they wouldn’t be destroyed by one simple hit.

Try thinking of this battle more like Orochimaru + Nidaime and Shodaime vs Sandaime, rather than the Neji vs Naruto battle.
is the 3 points of view really an application of the godmodeyes? I was under the impression it was a sort of telephatic connection between the three bodies of payne.
all i'm saying is that for now, it seems that Jiraya's hermit mode is more powerful (skilled, dangerous, comptent) than any of Payne's bodies so far, and that Payne is avoiding damage by covering up his weakness (blind spots) with his multi-bodies.
despite all that's been said about shadow clones and chackra waste, I don't think that creating a small mass of clones for a few mintues is what's going to drain Jiraya out of his chackrea this fight, he might not be Naruto, but he's still one of the san-nin.
I'm not saying that he should have the clones win a fight, but if he's able to to stop the 3-man (body) coverage of his action, he can overcome the blocking/shielding startegy Payne uses at this part of the fight.


Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
It doesn't have to be expressly stated that his eyes gives him 'seeing applications" its a given and it has already been shown. What does he have to come and say " Look I can do this with my eyes. and I can do this too and then it gives me this other cool ability" for you to be satisfied. Your comments only make me more curious as to exactly how old you are.

So How old are you?

let's see, last fights in Naruto? did the charecter make a boirng speech about what they can do?
Hidan's skills? yes, Shikamaru and Asume did it for him.
Kazoku's abilities? yes, Kakashi also helped explanning.
Sasuke's new found uber startegy? yep, he pretty much spoonfed us with it.
clayboy's clay bombs? he told us all about it.

and that's from the recent fights, most of the charecters explain ( themselves or through someone else) thier powers and what makes them so strong

eye bloodline skills doesn't have to tied with sight improvment, the sharingan has hypnosis properties and space ripping powers. the godmode eyes might just be an outward symptom of something that goes through the entire body. just like how red eyes in anime imply 'evil' and 'bloodlust', rather than spesific eye skills.

I'm 20, though I don't think it has anything to do with the subject, unless you'll be willing to withdraw your arguments if frogking (32, if I recall) and Psyke (28, or something) tell you so. Age isn't a a wisdom factor, nor is it a valied point for internet bashing.