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    A few people have mentioned that they thought Itachi could easily kill Pein using Tsukuyomi, since Pein sees everything from 6 different points of view. I think it's also plausible that Itachi can't kill Pein easily because Pein sees from 6 POV's.

    I mean, think back to when Jiraiya taught Naruto how to break out of genjutsu. Jiraiya explained that genjutsu rely on manipulating the victim's brain chakra to create illusions. And Pein has 6 brains that seem to work together, using perfect telepathic team work. My "theory" is that Pein's telepathic vision technique is just genjutsu too. His eyes grant his bodies the power to transmit illusions to the other bodies by manipulating their brain chakra. And thinking back to Jiraiya's lesson on genjutsu, it can be broken by forcing chakra through your brain.

    All this taken together makes me think Itachi can't kill Pein, at least not using the Rinnegan as a weakness.

    Let's consider a scenario for examples. Suppose one of Pein's bodies (call it A) gets caught in Tsukuyomi. Then it means Itachi's chakra is messing with A's brain. Fine. But it doesn't mean Itachi knows how to force A to send the other bodies the illusion Tsukuyomi produces. Also, it is plausible that since the other bodies use genjutsu to maintain their link with A -- and thus they obviously know how to force chakra through A's brain -- that the others might just focus their chakra on A's brain and overpower Tsukuyomi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    A few people have mentioned that they thought Itachi could easily kill Pein using Tsukuyomi, since Pein sees everything from 6 different points of view. I think it's also plausible that Itachi can't kill Pein easily because Pein sees from 6 POV's.

    I mean, think back to when Jiraiya taught Naruto how to break out of genjutsu. Jiraiya explained that genjutsu rely on manipulating the victim's brain chakra to create illusions. And Pein has 6 brains that seem to work together, using perfect telepathic team work. My "theory" is that Pein's telepathic vision technique is just genjutsu too. His eyes grant his bodies the power to transmit illusions to the other bodies by manipulating their brain chakra. And thinking back to Jiraiya's lesson on genjutsu, it can be broken by forcing chakra through your brain.

    All this taken together makes me think Itachi can't kill Pein, at least not using the Rinnegan as a weakness.

    Let's consider a scenario for examples. Suppose one of Pein's bodies (call it A) gets caught in Tsukuyomi. Then it means Itachi's chakra is messing with A's brain. Fine. But it doesn't mean Itachi knows how to force A to send the other bodies the illusion Tsukuyomi produces. Also, it is plausible that since the other bodies use genjutsu to maintain their link with A -- and thus they obviously know how to force chakra through A's brain -- that the others might just focus their chakra on A's brain and overpower Tsukuyomi.
    Interresting concept, however if it were true, then the Rin'Nigan power would have an enormous weakness. All the enemy would have to do would be to break the genjutsu by injecting their chakra into one of Pain's bodies. Although, they may have to do it to all six individually. I like your idea, but I'm still more convinced that the bodies are linked, not by a jutsu of any sort, but because they each came from the same source - in other words, they were originally one body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCMmmmm
    Interresting concept, however if it were true, then the Rin'Nigan power would have an enormous weakness. All the enemy would have to do would be to break the genjutsu by injecting their chakra into one of Pain's bodies. Although, they may have to do it to all six individually. I like your idea, but I'm still more convinced that the bodies are linked, not by a jutsu of any sort, but because they each came from the same source - in other words, they were originally one body.
    That's not an enormous weakness. At worst, it's a weakness everybody has. No known character would survive a strong chakra injection attack like Neji's taijutsu or Naruto's Windmill Rasengan if they connected. These, and genjutsu, are the only chakra injection attacks we've seen so far (if I recall). Genjutsu isn't as big a deal, since the other bodies could just use their genjutsu to overpower and reconnect to (and thus rescue) the other body.

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