Naruto Shippuden Episode 36-37

[Abdula]

-Pretty long post, read bitches

Wow dude. You really shoudn't be talking about stuff you know nothing about. There is evidence to support everything I've said.

Why don't you try and actually contribute something to the discussion instead of trying to attack me. That is just sad.

Are you purposely trying to start something with me, you're like a damn shadow following me everywhere?

I never thought Kabuto would love Oro. I think he just deeply respects him as an ultimate author of jutsu, many of them related closely to the medical sciences in which Kabuto himself excels. I deem he just wants to learn anything he can from Orochimaru, but in order to do that he needs to to be a more or less useful henchman.

The thing is that Kabuto seems to be operating of his own free will. If you remember that incident when Oro was in the shower and Kabuto was arguing with him, Kabuto was the one who made the prisoners fight so that Orochimaru would take over the body of the survivor.

Kabuto is also the one who sent Kimimaro to get Sasuke and during the early part of the series such as when Kabuto was talking to Baki or when he failed to capture Sasuke and when Oro sent him to eliminate Shizune. It shows that unlike Oro's other subordinates Kabuto has a lot of free will and that Oro trusts him more than anyone else so he isn't really a 'henchman'.

Normally, a person who's unloyal to you doesn't need to act that way unless he has a better person to turn to. Oro is a pretty powerful person to serve, so there wasn't a NEED for Kabuto to do anything suspicious or unloyal. When Oro lost his arms, however, he kept by him. Now that either indicates that he is truely loyal to Orochimaru, or that he just think he's still the best person to serve for the time being. Being by his side at a time like that also deepens whatever trust Oro may have had in him, which is a perfect tactic for a spy. And besides, we only know Sasori wanted to spy on Oro, he hadn't neccessarily told his spy to do anything hostile or destructive, just pass on info.

True if Kabuto intended to betray him or if Sasori had really intended for Kabuto to try and kill Oro there were many chances. If he wanted Orochimaru dead then the situation I mentioned above when Oro was waiting for Sasuke would've been the perfect chance. Oro was helpless and naked in the shower if Kabuto intended to kill him that would've been the perfect chance. He didn't even have to attack him directly all he had to do was to kill the host body that Oro would've used then he would've been dead.

There were also two opportunities during the Sannin battle. The first was when Tsunade attempted to use that medical jutsu to kill Orochimaru or during the battle itself because I would imagine that if Kabuto wasn't there to use the summoning jutsu Oro would've been killed.

[KrayZ33]

show me "the evidence" i can't find it

he never said "i luv ya" or something like that
and you know, his polite behavior is not a proof...

[masamuneehs]

there might not be any evidence that Kabuto, like Kimimaro and Haku, is in love with his evil boss. Hell, even Kimimaro never said that he loved Orochimaru (but I still think you're blind and dumb and/or homophobic if you can't at least understand why some people say that Kimi's affection for Oro was tinged with love).

But I do think Kabuto is extremely loyal to Orochimaru. He saved his life when Tsunade feigned healing him. He helps with tons of body transfers. He works almost like Orochimaru's personal doctor at times. I mean, Kabuto didn't even blink when Oro's plan to destroy Konoha failed and Oro was left crippled, let alone act like he wanted to abandon him.

There was that episode where Kabuto went to kill Sasuke. But he didn't. And, when you ask yourself WHY Kabuto would have gone and killed Sasuke, what reasons can you come up with? That he wanted to thwart Orochimaru's plan? No, he would have screwed him over at some other crucial point.

The only reason I could ever think of for why Kabuto wanted to kill Sasuke is that he was afraid Sasuke would replace him as Oro's right hand man. He couldn't stand how obsessed Orochimaru was with Sasuke. And, if you care to examine that line of thought further, it's not hard to take Kabuto's paranoid-jealousy of Sasuke to an extension of his feelings toward Orochimaru.

But, this all being said, I can't see why the spy couldn't be Kabuto. Remember, Yuura was absolutely loyal to the Sand, without even the faintest ideas of treachery, but Sasori's jutsu took control of him anyway. It's not like Sasori's spy is something people choose to be...

[KrayZ33]

there might not be any evidence that Kabuto, like Kimimaro and Haku, is in love with his evil boss. Hell, even Kimimaro never said that he loved Orochimaru (but I still think you're blind and dumb and/or homophobic if you can't at least understand why some people say that Kimi's affection for Oro was tinged with love).
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i never said kimi was not fighting for Oro i have to admit that i forgot him.. the sentence "i luv ya" was just a joke... sorry if that wasn't clear...i know that he is the same as Haku.
abdula uses the word "evidence" but there IS NO !!EVIDENCE!! he's speculating like everyone else but unlike him we don't say "you are all wrong and i m right"
or at least i don't
and i did explain why kabuto did not leave Oro's side and why he is so polite and helpfull however these were only speculations, too.

its just stupid of you guys to act like its a well known fact that kabuto likes Oro, but thats simply not true and THAT is what i wanted to point out with my posting.. i wanted to show you some arguments of the opposite side but all you guys did say "they are wrong, i m right" (ok the only one who did that abdula but still its freaking me out and some of the others too...)

you are simply ignoring all of my arguments (and don't come to me and say that there arn't any... there is plenty of stuff that is worth thinking about

[Kraco]

The thing is that Kabuto seems to be operating of his own free will. If you remember that incident when Oro was in the shower and Kabuto was arguing with him, Kabuto was the one who made the prisoners fight so that Orochimaru would take over the body of the survivor.

Kabuto is also the one who sent Kimimaro to get Sasuke and during the early part of the series such as when Kabuto was talking to Baki or when he failed to capture Sasuke and when Oro sent him to eliminate Shizune. It shows that unlike Oro's other subordinates Kabuto has a lot of free will and that Oro trusts him more than anyone else so he isn't really a 'henchman'.

I'm not sure if you were agreeing with me or not, but basically I'm not disagreeing with what you wrote there. The things is, he can't act like a really adoring goon because I doubt Oro would teach anything really fancy to such a person. He needs to show initiative of his own for Oro to recognize his potential and ambitions (usefulness for anything more than carrying out simple orders) - if Oro even has an intention to teach anyone anything at all. However, considering Oro's goal is to learn all the jutsu around, you might assume he wouldn't diss Kabuto's wish to learn new skills as well. And being as tough, clever and skillful as Kabuto is, I very much doubt he would stick around unless he aims to get something out of it - no matter how much he respects Oro; he hasn't given me the kind of impression he would waste his life.