The "is Naruto an idiot?" thread

[KCMmmmm]

I seriously think Naruto deserved most of the battles he fought, the only one that I totally don't accept is the one where he fights Kakuzu

Naruto just happens to learn a powered-up rasengan that couldn't and manages to land a hit on Kakuzu using a kage bunshin diversion (Kakuzu at this point already knew Naruto could make kage bunshins)
and Kakuzu who survived several generations, uses all elements of high level, is fooled by Naruto's kage bunshin just because it was holding another rasengan?
This match was seriously bs

I completely agree with you on this one. Kakuzu never struck me as a genius, but he should have been familiar enough with deceptive ninja techniques to prepare himself for that one.

I know Naruto has used some intelligent strategies, however he always pulls out the same trick first before implementing his strategy - a trick which never works. Blindly attacking an enemy is not a smart move, and the notion that he is doing it to gain info is not entirely valid, since he was doing this well before he realized that his defeated shadow clones dispersed their gained knowledge.

That battle was the worst piece of crap I've ever seen not just because Neji went easy on him but because he won by digging a hole in the ground and attacking Neji from underground if it was Sasuke and the Sharingan I would've have given it to him but it was the Byakugan. WTF?

I definitely liked Naruto's strategy against Neji. At that point of the battle, Neji was completely worn out, and didn't wish to spend his last energy pulling out Byakugan when it seemed clear that his enemy was defeated. Still, one good strategy isn't enough (in my opinion) to rectify using the same ineffective strategies in every battle.

That's why I really like Shikamaru; he may not be very strong, and his endurance - or chakra capacity - may suck, but he's able to win by using superior strategies against nearly every opponent. Definitely a cool character. And when you pair him with a powerhouse like Naruto, they could become unstoppable.

[CapsuleCorpJX]

I completely agree with you on this one. Kakuzu never struck me as a genius, but he should have been familiar enough with deceptive ninja techniques to prepare himself for that one.

I know Naruto has used some intelligent strategies, however he always pulls out the same trick first before implementing his strategy - a trick which never works. Blindly attacking an enemy is not a smart move, and the notion that he is doing it to gain info is not entirely valid, since he was doing this well before he realized that his defeated shadow clones dispersed their gained knowledge. ...

Actually, by initially attacking blindly with his shadow clones, Naruto lowers his enemies' guard. They automatically think this kid is stupid, so they are surprised when he comes up with a deceptive side attack later on. So whether Naruto does this on purpose or not, it does work.

[February]

Actually, by initially attacking blindly with his shadow clones, Naruto lowers his enemies' guard. They automatically think this kid is stupid, so they are surprised when he comes up with a deceptive side attack later on. So whether Naruto does this on purpose or not, it does work.

It also shows his opponents that Naruto excels at making Kage Bunshins, Naruto wastes some chakra, and shows his opponents that Naruto is a close-combat type of ninja.

Therefore, the opponent, who might lower his guard, also expects kage bunshin tactics from Naruto (who almost always need them for anything) , and are willing to make distance between him and Naruto to engage in long range combat.

Initially attacking blindly with shadow clones don't always make enemies think Naruto is stupid. It might be a stupid thing to do, but it doesn't always work the other way around. Smart ninjas are always prepared for tricks, diversions, and deceptions.

[shinta|hikari]

Agreed.

Naruto is simply inconsistent, and if seen in general, a very poorly written, illogical character.