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    I think it's nonsense. The hollow that attacked Kaien was one of Aizen's failed experiments and not an arrancar, nor is it likely that Aizen would trun it into an arrancar because it was not a Menos or higher and would thus be weak. Certainly it wouldn't be strong enough to be an Espada. I think it's more likely that it can read minds and shape-shift than that it's a fuse of Kaien en the Failed Experiment.

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    How do you know he did GET powerful enough to be Menos and then an espada?

    I mean, we don't really know how hollows work. But I assumed they increased in power over time. Rather than Vasto Lords just being born Vasto Lords.

    I'd say it's certainly possible that it's really Kien. But...he's still a Hollow. Hence...badguy. People go bad when they become Hollows. Even previously good people.


    That said, I think its just a regular Espada using some kind of mind-reading illusion thing.

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    Well, I'm not sure at all. Hollow's can get stronger ofcourse, see the Grand Fisher dude. But seeing how the Grand Fisher was relatively intelligent, and a Menos is pretty stupid, I don't think a normal hollow would somehow evolve into a giant, stupid, more powerful hollow.

    And I agree, people going hollow go bad, stay bad. See Inoe's brother early in the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janusz
    Well, I'm not sure at all. Hollow's can get stronger ofcourse, see the Grand Fisher dude. But seeing how the Grand Fisher was relatively intelligent, and a Menos is pretty stupid, I don't think a normal hollow would somehow evolve into a giant, stupid, more powerful hollow.
    I thought they said that Menos are actually made up of many Hollows merged into one being.

    Also, I think only the level one Menos, the Gillians, are mindless. The Adjuchas and the Vasto Lords are shown to be intellegent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    I thought they said that Menos are actually made up of many Hollows merged into one being.

    Also, I think only the level one Menos, the Gillians, are mindless. The Adjuchas and the Vasto Lords are shown to be intellegent.
    You've got a point there. Though we haven't heard how the Adjuchas and Vasto's are 'formed', if it's something like a Menos or if they just are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janusz
    You've got a point there. Though we haven't heard how the Adjuchas and Vasto's are 'formed', if it's something like a Menos or if they just are.
    They're all "Menos Grande". Vasto's and Adjuchas are more powerful Menos.

    So given that I assume all 3 types are made of many hollows.

    The question remains if Gillians BECOME Adjuchas and Adjuchas become Vasto Lords, or if when a Menos forms its whatever of the 3 types it is right from the beginning.

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