Gundam 00 Episode 14

[Yukimura]

Lol...please don't use Nyoro~n translations as evidence for anything other than the poor quality of Nyoro~n translators. Their record is so poor that anything they say really should be corroborated by a second source. The idea that the Gundams charge Ptolemaios is supported by every peice of evidence I can google except for people who are talking about the Nyoro~n release.

But don't take my word for it, take this guy's, he actually speaks Japanese AND he has a blog, how could he be wrong?

After wtching the OP 10-15 times I have some info to share. The new mobile suits (2:19-2:22) in the the OP all appear to produce red shimmering particles leading me to believe they are equipped with some form of GN Drive. From the colors of the suits that we can see, dark reds and black, as well as the color of the particles themselves, red, it seems extremely likely that these suits will be enemy suits. Also the one that was on the left that gets zoomed in on has a shoulder profile reminiscent of a Tierens (HRL Girls Pink suit) and the left arm (our left) of the one in the middle looks vaguely similar to the shape of the gun Graham has on his Flag. This leads me to believe that each superpower may end up producing it's own Gundam.

Further evidence for their hostility comes from the fight sequence (2:24-2:36). The sequence starts with Virtue firing at where the three new ones were, then the new suits scatter up left and right. Dynames is seen firing at the one that went right, then it cuts to a new location and we see drones coming in from the left and they are trying to surround and attack Kyrios. Those little things attack Kyrios with red lasers and then Kyrios and Exia each destroy one leading me to believe they were not under Kyrios's control at all.

One thing that bothers me though, the new suits seem to have tech that is comparable, if not superior to, CB's (funnels/bits/DRAGOONs, giant lasers, high speed, etc).
What I can't understand is how they would anyone be able to be produced such things without some sort of time skip. Even if the countries managed to capture a Solar Furnace the tech for the Gundams is supposed to be 20+ years ahead of every one else's, you can't just close a gap like that in only months.

[Death13a]

In 200 years of Gundam development i doubt someone wouldn't have ulterior motives for technology.

[Kraco]

One thing that bothers me though, the new suits seem to have tech that is comparable, if not superior to, CB's (funnels/bits/DRAGOONs, giant lasers, high speed, etc).
What I can't understand is how they would anyone be able to be produced such things without some sort of time skip. Even if the countries managed to capture a Solar Furnace the tech for the Gundams is supposed to be 20+ years ahead of every one else's, you can't just close a gap like that in only months.

Hah. The fact some tiny private organization like CB would ever have significantly better technology than practically speaking the rest of the world combined is, to begin with, the single greatest breach of realism in this entire show. And honestly if they acquire the solar furnace technology from fallen Gundams, I'd expect them to take a few months at max to equip new frames with it.

Honestly, just today I read how a modern tractor factory spits out 60 specifically customized tractors out in a single day. So, lets jump a couple of hundreds of years into the future and we will have production capabilities that will produce any high tech mobile suit in mere hours from blueprints on a computer screen. Anybody who thinks it will take amazing amounts of time to adapt new technology is hopelessly jammed in the past.

Scientific breakthroughs take time. Not adapting them. That's why the major powers are so desperately trying to capture a Gundam; they have no idea of the science of how it works.

[KrayZ33]

Hah. The fact some tiny private organization like CB would ever have significantly better technology than practically speaking the rest of the world combined is, to begin with, the single greatest breach of realism in this entire show. And honestly if they acquire the solar furnace technology from fallen Gundams, I'd expect them to take a few months at max to equip new frames with it.

do we really know that CB is "small"? and even if it was a small organization, as long as it gets support (which i think CB does because who are all these [rich] guys who only observe the gundams) it is possible to get far ahead.. wasn't it even mentioned that CB is probably a 200 years old organisation and that CB could be involed in the disappearing of many good scientist?

and i don't think it would be that easy to copy that technology.... World War 2 showed us that advanced technology was really difficult to copy and ended up in building hundreds of useless tanks or weapons which never worked properly. (take the MP44 or MG42 for example :P these weapons areeven used in modern warfare -> AK47 and MG3 so basicaly you can say that these weapons were far ahead of others..)

they might get some new frames, but they simply won't be as good as the originals because it takes a lot of time to understand technology which is far ahead... and then you have to optimise it which is even more difficult.

[animus]

Lol...please don't use Nyoro~n translations as evidence for anything other than the poor quality of Nyoro~n translators. Their record is so poor that anything they say really should be corroborated by a second source. The idea that the Gundams charge Ptolemaios is supported by every peice of evidence I can google except for people who are talking about the Nyoro~n release.

But don't take my word for it, take this guy's, he actually speaks Japanese AND he has a blog, how could he be wrong?

After wtching the OP 10-15 times I have some info to share. The new mobile suits (2:19-2:22) in the the OP all appear to produce red shimmering particles leading me to believe they are equipped with some form of GN Drive. From the colors of the suits that we can see, dark reds and black, as well as the color of the particles themselves, red, it seems extremely likely that these suits will be enemy suits. Also the one that was on the left that gets zoomed in on has a shoulder profile reminiscent of a Tierens (HRL Girls Pink suit) and the left arm (our left) of the one in the middle looks vaguely similar to the shape of the gun Graham has on his Flag. This leads me to believe that each superpower may end up producing it's own Gundam.

Further evidence for their hostility comes from the fight sequence (2:24-2:36). The sequence starts with Virtue firing at where the three new ones were, then the new suits scatter up left and right. Dynames is seen firing at the one that went right, then it cuts to a new location and we see drones coming in from the left and they are trying to surround and attack Kyrios. Those little things attack Kyrios with red lasers and then Kyrios and Exia each destroy one leading me to believe they were not under Kyrios's control at all.

One thing that bothers me though, the new suits seem to have tech that is comparable, if not superior to, CB's (funnels/bits/DRAGOONs, giant lasers, high speed, etc).
What I can't understand is how they would anyone be able to be produced such things without some sort of time skip. Even if the countries managed to capture a Solar Furnace the tech for the Gundams is supposed to be 20+ years ahead of every one else's, you can't just close a gap like that in only months.

I just read through all those comments, and thank god I only watched their first "translated" ep. That was some good dorama.

[fireheart]

Lol...please don't use Nyoro~n translations as evidence for anything other than the poor quality of Nyoro~n translators. Their record is so poor that anything they say really should be corroborated by a second source. The idea that the Gundams charge Ptolemaios is supported by every peice of evidence I can google except for people who are talking about the Nyoro~n release.

But don't take my word for it, take this guy's, he actually speaks Japanese AND he has a blog, how could he be wrong?

Not using it as evidence haven't even seen any of their releases so wouldn't know, just saw that link you posted in one of the other threads and from the best of my knowledge that's the only place where it's been mentioned that the Gundams need to be charged from the Ptolemaios. Which is a pretty obvious answer to your own question about where it's ever been mentioned.


masamuneehs: Frankly though does it really matter how realistic the show is? If we wanted realism we wouldn't be watching Gundam in the first place and it isn't the first lack of realism in the show.