Naruto Chapter 387

[Xscatic]

nice action in this chapter. But you would think that Sasuke would primarily use something, hell anything else other than "endless shruinken barrage" against Itachi's speed, strength, agility, the speed of his seal formations, and genjustus. And then you have to consider his use of the MS. And you have to wonder why Sasuke only use his Chordri techinque on just one windmill shruiken out of the many he used?

Because of these factors, i agree that this is just some illusionary "what if " fighting scenario that they are going through (like two masters who gauge themselves before fighting, unable to make a move) before the actual real fighting begins.

And if this is the actual real fight, I hope and pray that Sasuke pulls off some next level-type whatever to get out of that position.

[joker-kun]

I am not a Sasuke fanboy, but I doubt the fight is over, or if it is I doubt Sasuke will lose his eyes. I can see him losing one eye, just because then he still has some chance of becoming strong, but common; an Uchiha with no eyes? I don't think his "hate" could help him after that, specially against someone who would end up having EMS.

I see Sasuke's cursed seal coming out now, or we could always have a big surprise (or is it?), and he pops out MS. I think something will happen though.

[Assertn]

The fight wont end before Sasuke uses the curse seal.

I'm with the others that it might not have been Sasuke that screamed at the end...
Then again....it definitely seems even more out of character for Itachi to be screaming.

Who knows?

Edit: Actually I know...
It was Zetsu who screamed, because Sasuke used a genjutsu to make Itachi think that Zetsu was Sasuke.

[Raven]

It's nice to see Itachi still pwn the shit out of Sasuke even at this point of the series. Rightly so. I still don't think they're even in the same league. I'd honestly like him to take at least one of his eyes at this point, it would demonstrate how much of an "end-boss" Itachi still is, imo.

With only one or no eyes remaining it could open up different story angles for Sasuke, albeit very different to what we're used to.

[poopdeville]

I've got a feeling Sasuke gained more than just healing powers when he took Orochimaru's bijuu into his mind. For one thing, I have a really strong feeling he gained Orochimaru's ability to puke a snake/Orochimaru out. Which might mean that even if Itachi takes his eyes, a "new" Sasuke would appear, complete with eyes.

I don't see the point in Itachi taking his eyes now. In fact, it would ruin his "spares". Sasuke still doesn't have the Magnekyu Sharingan.

[Abdula]

Orochimaru's bijuu into his mind. For one thing, I have a really strong feeling he gained Orochimaru's ability to puke a snake/Orochimaru out. Which might mean that even if Itachi takes his eyes, a "new" Sasuke would appear, complete with eyes.

Ah, Oro is not a bijuu, and I don't know what you think but that jutsu Oro used always appeared to be just a trumped up substitution in my opinion and Sasuke being able to make his eyes reappear if Itachi takes them would be just plain dumb.

which directly contradicts the whole 'only 3 ppl have ever gotten it' thing. anyone wanna explain that to me?

It was never said that there were only 3 people in the history of the clan to gain MS.

With all the eye snatching going on, Kakashi better start running or else Tobi will pluck his left eye out when he see's that Kakashi have a MS.

I was thinking about that too but if he already has EMS he wouldn't need Kakashi's pathetic eye and like I said before if for some reason he has lost it then there is Sasuke. I mean his whole obsession was with Sasuke so if anything he would take Itachi's eyes once Itachi takes Sasuke's.

Maybe there's a process to physically merge the eyes into yours or something....

There must be because one, you can't just pop out people's eyes just like that and even if you could you can't just pluck your own out and put their's in. When Itachi sent those tentacle like things after Sasuke's eyes I thought that it had to do with genjutsu. We all ready know that MS can affect the physical world and Itachi has already mastered genjutsu. So using MS and some advanced genjutsu that removes Sasuke's eyes and then merges them with his is not a stretch. It could be something like Oro's transfer jutsu in that the actual transfer takes place within another dimension.

atleast this serves as a partial explanation to how kakashi might have gotten the MS...i guess that implies that tobi was also capable of getting it. And also, kakashi should be able to use MS without and eye deterioration.

What makes you think Kakashi will be able to use MS without his eye deteriorating. They said that MS naturally deteriorates and that using it only speeds the process up, so I thought it was inevitable.

Yeah, that's one thing I don't quite understand about this either. Itachi has basically already told Sasuke during this fight to come back when he has MS. But then he tries to take his eyes anyway.
So now it seems like Itachi doesn't need for Sasuke to have MS in order to take his eyes? If that's the case then why the hell did Itachi wait so long to take his eyes; why didn't he just take them years ago?

Well so far there is nothing to prove that Sasuke needs to have MS before Itachi takes his eye and since Kakashi acquired it I really don't see why he would need Sasuke to as long as Sasuke's eyes are capable of it. As for why he would wait so long, he was waiting because he wanted to fight him when they both had it. He told Sasuke that killing him back then wouldn't serve any purpose because he was too weak.

So I would say that he waited that long because he wanted Sasuke to gain MS on his own and then both of them would face off against each other. I suppose that due to the extent that his eye has already deteriorated that he is forced to take them now before he goes completely blind and not wait on Sasuke anymore.

[joker-kun]

I wonder if Kishi is going to make the Sharingan even stronger and pull off something where Madara is trying to combine EMS with EMS. You know, like steal Itachi's eyes (hypothetically if he got them off Sasuke, which I don't think he will), and combine them with his own. I think it would be horribly stupid, but with the constant Sharingan secrets you never know.

[DB_Hunter]

I think any more powerups for the Sharingan will be pretty stupid now. Yes we know its powerful, but enough with the SSJ level 1->4 crap. That only worked in DBZ. Barely.

[mr3vi1m0nk3y]

Sucks for Sasuke, he always had an eye for trouble.

Yeah...I'll go away now.

[Assassin]

I still dont get what stealing sasuke's eyes will accomplish....when madara stole the eyes from his brother, they both already had MS.....all this will do is give itachi a new pair of eyes, with no MS. Unless he goes and activates it himself, in which case, he'd end up going blind again (or atleast he should, otherwise it'd be pretty gay).

Also, last chapter itachi said that dozens of people had killed each otehr to attain the MS thru out uchiha history, which directly contradicts the whole 'only 3 ppl have ever gotten it' thing. anyone wanna explain that to me?

[UChessmaster]

why didnt madara and his brother just swithced eyes or something?

[Idealistic]

why didnt madara and his brother just swithced eyes or something?

Loopholes man! Well, actually, I think madara's eyes probably deteriorated quicker than his younger brother's, so I don't think bad eyes would do his younger brother any good. Or simply, he just didn't care about his younger brother.

@Assassin, I think they tried, but I don't think any of them ever got MS. Being a genius probably comes into play. And I was going to quote that typo, but Raven got to it first.

As for why Itachi wants the eyes now, he probably needed "strong" eyes, and not just any type of eyes. But yeah, that's still kind of lame.

[Raven]

otherwise i'd be pretty gay

Quote of the month already, so soon into Feb.

Anyway, when this chapter eventually gets converted to anime, the watchers will know straight away who screamed as they can hear the voice. I like it better this way, it keeps us guessing.

[DB_Hunter]

Would the MS eyes of Madara's brother also have deteriorated like Madara's? He swapped one crap pair of eyes for another.

[Munsu]

You don't lose your sight because of having the M. Sharingan... you lose it by using it. His brother might've not been tempted by its powers like Madara did.

[Rikudo]

With all the eye snatching going on, Kakashi better start running or else Tobi will pluck his left eye out when he see's that Kakashi have a MS.

[Assertn]

I don't think just "switching eyes" is the point to EMS. The process they're following has two effects. First of all, it's the act of killing your brother, which in itself has to be a factor considering that the requirement of killing your friend was for the first MS. Second of all, the demon behind Itachi/Madara shows two sets of eyes, which suggests that it's the combination of both pairs that creates the EMS, not just the replacement. Maybe there's a process to physically merge the eyes into yours or something....

[joker-kun]

I agree with Assertn completely. I think it requires the new eyes and the old eyes. Also as stated above, it might just be that people tried to gain the MS, but couldn't even after killing their friends, but when Itachi spoke of three being capable he meant present time didn't he? So who knows there could have been more in the past. It was probably well hidden and forbidden.

As for Itachi wanting Sasuke's eyes now his explanation has been very vague (thus the reason for so much speculation about this, and the above points.), but -I- think what it is is you need someone who is capable of gaining MS. Sasuke is definetely capable, along with his hate, but he was just too stubborn to kill Naruto.

[Assassin]

atleast this serves as a partial explanation to how kakashi might have gotten the MS...i guess that implies that tobi was also capable of getting it. And also, kakashi should be able to use MS without and eye deterioration.

[Rikudo]

Since all Uchihas' have the same last name, maybe the whole inbreeding is what makes the sharingan very powerful but at the same time causes blindness.