Misread, I thought you wrote duping which would be deceiving your opponent doping would be taking drugs either way it doesn't matter in a fight for your life or to protect someone else. Winning is the only thing. If you want to talk about sucking at everything in the beginning of the series then that description also pretty accurately describes Naruto as well, in fact even now it still holds true. Anyway like the leaf ninjas keep preaching none of that matters, true strength is being able to live by your own nindo and protect your friends and comrades or some bull like that and Choji had that strength when it mattered. Since you're such an adamant Naruto fan I'm sure you won't argue that because that is Naruto's entire existence and if you want to talk about Choji using drugs to give him a power up being unfair what the hell would you say about Naruto because what could be more unnatural and unfair than having a freaking super demon to rely on and what trumps Kyuubi?Originally Posted by KrayZ33
What proper training, as far as I know Neji wasn't trained he is a member of the branch family and as such they don't get the training that the head family does. Even so any training he would have got then would have been miniscule. He completely developed all his techniques on his own that is what was said about him and why Hinata's father was so impressed with him it is also why his techniques are different from the other Hyuuga's. Secondly Lee didn't get any training when Gai met him I don't think he was even in the academy because he had no talent whatsoever. He was just a little street kid Gai saw that reminded him of himself. Finally Sasuke didn't get any freaking goddamn training from his father. His father taught him a few seals to do the fire technique and then he died. He didn't get anymore training than Naruto did when Jiraiya taught him the summoning in fact I would say it was far less.well thats not true because both got proper training even in their childhood
well at least neji did, i don't know about lee but he got gai later
Anyway once they all got into the academy they all got formal training and if you want to compare teachers Naruto had freaking Iruka, Kakashi and Jiraiya. What the hell tops that?
Naruto's chakra isn't unlimited or anywhere close to it. The amount of chakra Naruto himself has isn't all that spectacular what matters is that he has the Kyuubi endlessly replenishing that supply. From what I've seen I would say that Pts Naruto only had about as much chakra as Choji was able to generate back when he went butterfly mode and now he only has a bit more than Kakashi does and since he uses such powerful techniques he runs through that chakra really quickly. Which is why you always see him with red eyes or using red chakra because at that point he has already used up all of his own and is relying on the Kyuubi. Just look closely at his fights with Gaara or Sasuke and you should see what I mean.unlike most ninjas naruto doesn't really have to pay attention to his chakra since it is nearly unlimited, so he can use it as often as he likes.
Okay so Naruto gets unfairly judged or whatever so what he is the main character thats what happens. Anyway as for Naruto and Sakura they are both equally inexperienced in battle and both need to grow up. They aren't used to battle and fending for themselves even now they still have Yamato protecting them. That is why nearly every villain they have encountered from Ibiki to Zabuza to Gaara to Akatsuki to Oro and Kabuto have said that they are just playing ninja games as opposed to being real ninja and why despite being the strongest village the leaf's ninjas are viewed as softi was like "omg what the hell is he doing, how is that attack supposed to be usefull?"
and everyone here on the forum said "man he attacked from behind so it was the best way to sneak up to him"
Anyway speaking of protagonist Naruto is unlike any other I've seen. Luffy, Ichigo even Goku had their shortcomings but no one would argue that they are weak. Naruto's abilities on the other hand are completely disputable he is just so well protected by the rules of his world and Kishi's convenient plot devices that even though he has defeated some strong opponents I can't really say that he is strong at all or that X opponent wouldn't stand a chance against him. I don't know if its just me but everything seems to have just been handed to Naruto and even so he still can't use what he has properly. I can't seem to give Naruto any credit for any of his victories and despite seeing him fight countless times I still don't know what level he is on. Even at this point it still seems that Naruto is just relying on what was given to him instead of developing his own strength, Its just weird if you ask me.