Naruto Chapter 396

[Sidnne]

Well, Madara has been around since the founding of Konoha, so Kishi could very easily throw in a random flashback of Oro encountering Madara at any point.

Madara made Itachi his protege, convinced him to betray Konoha, and then brought him into Akatsuki. Who's to say he didn't do the same with Oro years earlier?

But, I never said Oro learned the jutsu from Madara, only that he may have learned of the jutsu from Madara. It could simply be that Oro was in the woods and witnessed Madara take Obito's body and then became determined to learn how he did it.

Really, there's a vast number of possibilities that would all be rational.

[February]

It could simply be that Oro was in the woods and witnessed Madara take Obito's body .

whoa..people are still on this obito thing? Why is it so hard to believe that Madara might still have perserved his body? At first, people were saying Tobi = Obito. Now that recent chapters proved it was not, people are still trying to relate Obito as to Madara's physical body. I don't think it has anything to do with obito

[Idealistic]

Itachi can't be a good guy. Like I've said before, his facial expression when he goes "Sasuke!! You are my light!!" was too convincing. And like I've also said before, Tobi being Obito would be like the lamest plot twist ever.

As for Madara living so long, I don't think it has anything to do with jumping into other bodies. He can control space and time or whatever with his eyes. They said he did it to his body parts which is why all the attacks went through him. I think he keeps his body in some special kind of state. Like freezing himself in time while the world around him continues, except he can still move around and about.

[conquistaDan]

Itachi can't be a good guy. Like I've said before, his facial expression when he goes "Sasuke!! You are my light!!" was too convincing. And like I've also said before, Tobi being Obito would be like the lamest plot twist ever.

As for Madara living so long, I don't think it has anything to do with jumping into other bodies. He can control space and time or whatever with his eyes. They said he did it to his body parts which is why all the attacks went through him. I think he keeps his body in some special kind of state. Like freezing himself in time while the world around him continues, except he can still move around and about.

Thats a good one. In fact I'll do you one better. I actually think he's in a permanent sharingan spell. I don't think his eyes have ever been turned off ever since he got them from his brother.Why would they be? Once he has the new fresh pair, he got every sharingan form instantly. Along the way I'm sure in his life he found out some amazing way to get pretty much anything from anyone. Way better than Oro or anyone else for that matter. The guy can look at someone and start controlling them. To be honest I can't wait to see what he knows about everyone. Tells Sasuke about his brother. And teaches him.

[Garhert]

Obito gave his left eye to Kakashi and Madara/Tobi uses his right eye as far we have seen. And about that you guys think Tobi = Obito (his physical body)?

So how does he still has the EMS? For EMS you need your brothers eyes. Or was Obito Madaras 120 years younger brother? ^^


But anyway... that was a damn good chapter! Can't wait for the next one

[Sidnne]

Obito gave his left eye to Kakashi and Madara/Tobi uses his right eye as far we have seen. And about that you guys think Tobi = Obito (his physical body)?

The fact that Madara has an eye patch over his left eye pretty much screams "THIS IS OBITO'S BODY!" Shonen manga is pretty easy to predict, there are not many surprises if you're familiar with the themes.

Kakashi's Gaiden set it up for this to be Obito.

So how does he still has the EMS? For EMS you need your brothers eyes. Or was Obito Madaras 120 years younger brother? ^^

There have been a lot of holes lately regarding MS. We were told you needed to kill your best friend to obtain MS, but that turned out not to be true. So the listed requirements for MS and EMS can be somewhat disregarded for the moment.

Plus, we haven't actually seen Madara use MS as Tobi, so we don't even know if he still has it. That could easily be what Itachi meant when he was referring to Madara "in his current state."

And like I've also said before, Tobi being Obito would be like the lamest plot twist ever.

Why would that be lame? I happen to think that would make things very interesting. Kakashi goes that memorial every day to mourn his friends. Then Kishi gives us "Kakashi's Gaiden" to introduce the Obito character and show us his fate.
You don't think it would be interesting to have Madara appear in the form of Kakashi's fallen comrade as the main villain, who has been acting as a puppet master, pulling strings throughout Konoha's history all along?

[February]

The fact that Madara has an eye patch over his left eye pretty much screams "THIS IS OBITO'S BODY!" Shonen manga is pretty easy to predict, there are not many surprises if you're familiar with the themes.

Kakashi's Gaiden set it up for this to be Obito.

There have been a lot of holes lately regarding MS. We were told you needed to kill your best friend to obtain MS, but that turned out not to be true. So the listed requirements for MS and EMS can be somewhat disregarded for the moment.

Plus, we haven't actually seen Madara use MS as Tobi, so we don't even know if he still has it. That could easily be what Itachi meant when he was referring to Madara "in his current state."

Why would that be lame?

Why the hell would Madara use Obito's broken body that has only 1 sharingan (if that sharingan survived from the rock) when Madara is powerful enough to snatch any Uchiha with sharingan?

Remember that the time period is before Itachi killed all of the Uchiha clan. Don't give me a reason like, " Madara could only take Obito's body because other Uchihas were too strong for him". Madara was ridiculously strong back then and he still is from what we've seen so far.

How did the requirement for MS turn out to be not true? Because Kakashi has it and we didn't see him kill his best friend? The explanation for that is he feels guilty for Obito's death, and that gave him the MS. You might not like that explanation but it seems logical to me.

I think you've fooled yourself to be able to predict the shonen manga, and if the patch makes you say "THIS IS OBITO", then I guess I will say that Gaara and Sasori are brothers because they both have red hair and same hair style.

EDIT: What chapters were the Kakashi Gaiden? I would like to read them again it was very good