Kurenai

[Munsu]

You've never been around kids, have you Munsu? They'll often talk about things they don't have a full grasp on -- in some cases an adult should correct the child, but sometimes its better to leave things be and not try to confuse them further. They'll understand complex things in due time.

As for Shinkuro -- his strength seems very hard to scale after this last fight. I think the director was trying to force the story in a certain direction and ended up butchering the character.

Wow, have you even been following the series? Murasaki has clearly been shown to quite unique and mature for her age.... it's what everyone has been talking about since the first episode. And this goes beyond what some kids would say about not understanding... just look at the way they interact. I doubt you'd be comfortable if your kid was hanging around a dude like Shinkurou talking about the things they do and doing the things they do as innocent as they corrently are, they're simply not normal behavior. I would kick his ass.

Of course I was joking about him being a pedophile, sarcasm anyone? But, the story keeps giving subtle hints here and there that they wouldn't shy away from the possibility. Their dialogues are quite advanced already for her age, and Shinkurou does understand it especially after being instructed of her background. Also, this has little to do with what Shinkurou is doing as a character at the moment, but what the story might decide to do with him, as I said, they don't seem to be shy about the subject, and all the hints they are showing I wouldn't be surprised if they form some sort of sexual relationship between them, though I doubt it.

[NeoBear]

I wouldn't be surprised if they form some sort of sexual relationship between them, though I doubt it.

man im not sure what to think of that i dont get that vibe at all and if i did im pretty sure theres no way i could watch this. yes Murasaki acts mature for her age but shes ignorant about so much. and Shinkurou imo looks at her as a little sister he takes her in the bath and just acts like hes in there with a little kid, but there very idea of him thinking of Murasaki sexualy is scary and a little disturbing.

[Munsu]

man im not sure what to think of that i dont get that vibe at all and if i did im pretty sure theres no way i could watch this. yes Murasaki acts mature for her age but shes ignorant about so much. and Shinkurou imo looks at her as a little sister he takes her in the bath and just acts like hes in there with a little kid, but there very idea of him thinking of Murasaki sexualy is scary and a little disturbing.

Again, not saying there is... but considering the subject matter the series has been addressing, particularly on the last episode and seeing how the characters interact I wouldn't come as a surprise to me if they did. Again, it's like a 0.0001% of happening, I don't see them doing it but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Didn't really expect this big of a reaction from what is clearly a joke, even though there's some truth in it. Shinkurou gets teased as a lolicon for a reason, not saying he's a pedophile... but once again the way the story has progressed so far and the subject matters the series has addressed it wouldn't surprised me if they did. Take it for what its worth.

As Ryllharu said, Murasaki is fully capable of trying to seduce Shinkurou, and considering how weak minded of a character he is, he might just let her do what she wants.

Koi Kaze anyone?

[Everon]

What are the chances that Shinkuro understands that Murasaki is serious then? She readily believes the stuff Tamaki tells her and ends up calling Shinkuro a lolicon. Think about Shinkuro's position, it'd be hard to separate Tamaki's indirect teasing from what she's learned in the past.

[Ryllharu]

What are the chances that Shinkuro understands that Murasaki is serious then?

Like you said, I suspect very little. Shinkurou may believe she's just a child repeating what she heard on the television or from Tamaki/Yamie which would be correct for a lot of the cultural things Murasaki has absorbed since she was in his care, but Murasaki was taking all the conversations with the two women about relationships absolutely seriously. Tamaki and Yamie were telling her things they actually believed (especially Tamaki after her little episode at her college).

If anything, Shinkurou may believe he's just speaking with a child, but in terms of relationships/romance/love, Murasaki is anything but. Mentally at least. This has been bred into her for years.

[Everon]

As Ryllharu said, Murasaki is fully capable of trying to seduce Shinkurou, and considering how weak minded of a character he is, he might just let her do what she wants.

Heh, its true that Shinkurou is weak to advances, but Murasaki wouldn't lower herself to that "vile woman's" standards.

[animus]

So Renjou and Souju were actually siblings and in love? Surprising.

[Munsu]

Well, time for pedo-Shinkurou to go emo on episode 10:
http://e.coli.kamosuzo.net/download....5D.mkv.torrent

[Kraco]

It wasn't as bad as I thought. I feared I'd need to keep skipping scenes but no need for that. Pretty low emo level all in all, even if it certainly was present especially during the first half. However, other people kicked the sense efficiently enough back to Shinkurou.

Still, I think before trying to inflitrate the Kuhouin premises he should ask the Houzuki for extra lessons in some really effective assassination techniques. Might come in handy...

[Ryllharu]

It wasn't bad at all. Shinkurou just exhibited about every possible behavior of someone who wants to be doing something so badly, but isn't sure where to start or how to do it (rescue Murasaki). I know when I've done bad things like totaling my car, I first didn't want to do anything because I was so anxious to take the next step, but having no idea what it was. But not doing anything was driving me insane, so I cleaned the whole house.

It's cathartic. It gives you something to do when you know you have to do something, anything that has a definite result. It's really all you can do until you know what to do.

We got to see why Yayoi was so insistent about Shinkurou being a bad choice, and making absolutely sure he didn't fuck it all up. At the same time, Yayoi admitted that she would have been a bad choice to be the person taking care of Murasaki.

I think this was actually one of the better episodes of the series, because I could relate exactly to how he was acting in the episode.

[shinta|hikari]

I thought it was a superb episode.

Great emotional drama, without it deteriorating into something too cheesy. Shinkurou's every action was well done, making the entire episode melancholic yet not overly dramatic.

Still, I think he is going to get pawned once he infiltrates. Kurenai is just that type of show, at least I hope it is, without absurd instant powerups I mean.

I loved the comment about not being able to sleep because of their injuries. Made what seems like an absurd beating much more realistic.

[Kraco]

Kurenai is just that type of show, at least I hope it is, without absurd instant powerups I mean.

I guess it depends on whether Kuhouin employes more good fighters than just the crazy bitch and if they use guns. Other than that Shinkurou should be good enough if he just has the balls to use his skills. That's his primary problem.

[shinta|hikari]

Hmm... Judging from the preview, I think Shinkurou will probably go in the compound but will be forced to leave right after without getting Murasaki, or something to that effect.

I think those black suited guys are good fighters, but maybe don't have superhuman strength like Shinkurou, Yayoi and the crazy bitch does.

[Munsu]

I thought 10 was boring overall, didn't like how they developed Shinkurou at all within the episode... In my opinion this was the weakest episode so far, story wise and dialogue wise.

Next episode looks like it'll have plenty of action... looking forward to it.

[Munsu]

Here's 11:
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=23251

Good episode in my opinion, but only one episode left? This sucks.

[The Heretic Azazel]

One episode left? Well what the hell did Kurenai have the fucking horn for if it would hardly be mentioned again?

[Everon]

Think of the horn as a metaphor and not a typical superhero powerup. The horn manifests itself during Shinkuuro's moments of helplessness. It represents weakness, not strength.

[The Heretic Azazel]

Think of the horn as a metaphor and not a typical superhero powerup. The horn manifests itself during Shinkuuro's moments of helplessness. It represents weakness, not strength.

Well what's the point of showing it if it was shown once? Unless he used it in the second half of 11 or epi. 12 since I haven't watched those yet.

[Kraco]

A Kuhouin Woman:

Episode 12 Final - BSS






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I can't say these last two eps would have redeemed Shinkurou in my eyes, after all. It was half luck things ended how they did, and all in all it also seemed Shinkurou's determination and courage was getting very thin indeed. He only pulled it through because he got one moment alone and could gather his thought without anybody telling him what to do, thus forcing him to make a decision. Indeed Murasaki was perfectly correct when she stated Shinkurou isn't more advanced at all than she is.

The conclusion was a good one, though. It wasn't a cheap Hollywood one, but an intellectual one, with no running away from battle. One that forced people to face the facts with no detours around hard issues. It suits the series, or at least the image of the series I have in my head where Shinkurou isn't a goddam wuss.

[Lucifus]

Am I the only one getting nyaatorrent downtime? -_-