What are your opinions on Itachi?

[Abdula]

Well then tell me what he could've done? The village was on the brink of civil war and neither side wanted to listen to him so what could he have done. Its seems to me like back then the village was simply a collection of self governing clans so the Kage was really just a figure head. I mean if he didn't even have control of the anbu then what power did he have?.

I think you saying Danzo would have gotten his way if their roles were reversed is kinda silly. How would that even work since Danzo is the militaristic one and the one who ordered Itachi to do what he did in the first place. Besides I think your missing the point of exactly why the third was powerless even if he could've gotten Danzo and the others not to do what they did, both himself and the elders knew there would be nothing he could do to stop the Uchihas and that was the problem. I'm sure Danzo and the others weren't eager to have a massacre in the village but really what choice did they have. It has nothing to do with whether the third had balls or not and it wasn't about stopping Danzo and the elders it was about stopping the Uchihas..I think you're missing that. Madara said the third tried to forge a truce with the Uchihas but he failed. So its not like the third was trying to stop Danzo and the elders what he was trying to do was stop the Uchihas because that would have been the only way to prevent the bloodshed.

Itachi only did this because he saw the effects of war and was willing to do anything to stop another war from happening. The third and the others went through the war so I'm sure above all else the third let this happen for the same reason Itachi did it in the first place because it was the only way to prevent a war.

- I just posted this in the 402 thread and I figured I should put it here as well since it may be relevant to this discussion and it would be another reason why the third would have been unable to do anything if indeed it was Madara that was pulling the strings and setting things in motion.

Something thats bothering me. Back in chapter 400 Madara said that at that time he was in the village and he wanted the war to happen because he was bitter towards both the Senju and the Uchiha. So without a doubt this whole thing happening had something to do with Madara I think we all get that but what I don't get is the rest of it. What I get from that is that he was in the village since the beginning and was influencing things so eventually there would a war between the Uchiha and the village.

He said Itachi realized that he was alive and that he was the one responsible for this happening and Itachi confronted him and made him an offer. He said the offer was that in return for Itachi helping him get his revenge on the Uchiha, Madara would have to leave the rest of the village alone. It seemed to make sense when I first read it but now that I think about it why the hell would Madara go along with that. I mean he spent all these years planning and manipulating things so that there would be a war between the Uchihas and Konoha and all his planning was about to come to fruition why the hell would he change his mind and go along with Itachi.

Doesn't seem to make any sense to me. Unless Itachi offered him something else that he neglected to mention. Something to sweeten the deal, something that Madara wanted more than revenge and something he wouldn't have been able to get on his own. The only thing I can think of is ofcourse Sasuke but that doesn't make much sense either.