Naruto Chapter 404

[Death BOO Z]

there's potential for quite a stupidity here...
the sharingan can control kyuubi (strongest of the beasts) but not nescerly the rest of them, it's explained by the fact that both the kyuubi and the sharingan origin in the fire country, but then we learn that the 1st divided all the demons between the lands to end the ninja wars.
and it just happens to be that Naruto's only means to equal to Sasuke is his greatest weakness against him, perfect, more sharingan shananigans.

I don't see any reason why the other demons couldn't be controled, the fact the jicurichii (I couldn't spell it then, why should i be able to spell it months after they wasted the acr?) exist in other contries as well is proof enough.

sure, it's possible that Kisame didn't know Zabuza, and that they became missing nins on completly diffrent terms, and that some of swordsman are still in the village. it's possible, but I don't find it likely. it's like saying that the dynamic duo never met, and that the sound four aren't nescerly working together, and that the seven dragons\seal (x1999) don't know each other.

[Assertn]

there's potential for quite a stupidity here...
the sharingan can control kyuubi (strongest of the beasts) but not nescerly the rest of them, it's explained by the fact that both the kyuubi and the sharingan origin in the fire country, but then we learn that the 1st divided all the demons between the lands to end the ninja wars.
and it just happens to be that Naruto's only means to equal to Sasuke is his greatest weakness against him, perfect, more sharingan shananigans.

I don't see any reason why the other demons couldn't be controled, the fact the jicurichii (I couldn't spell it then, why should i be able to spell it months after they wasted the acr?) exist in other contries as well is proof enough.

Of course you shouldn't assume that ONLY the kyubi can be controlled. The kyubi is the strongest of them, it'd be ridiculous if the others were immune.

However, I didn't even think about this much....
Maybe that's why Madara wants to capture all the bijuu...so he can control the bijuu with his sharingan. By giving a bijuu to Sasuke, he's basically letting Sasuke control one of the bijuu with his sharingan...

Well whatever...there's always a different excuse for akatsuki's goals.

sure, it's possible that Kisame didn't know Zabuza, and that they became missing nins on completly diffrent terms, and that some of swordsman are still in the village. it's possible, but I don't find it likely. it's like saying that the dynamic duo never met, and that the sound four aren't nescerly working together, and that the seven dragons\seal (x1999) don't know each other.

We know that Kisame knows about Zabuza, because Kisame mentions Zabuza to Kakashi when they first met. By that point he had already known that Zabuza was defeated. Regardless, this neither proves nor disproves your point.

The Sound Four was working together because their goal as a team was to work together. Their skills were defense-based, which grew stronger with the combination of their efforts. There has been no indication of the seven swords of mist having this kind of relationship.

That's like saying that since Itachi was an ANBU when he defected, that all the other ANBUs should have defected as well. A completely baseless empirical assumption.

[Archangel]

Of course you shouldn't assume that ONLY the kyubi can be controlled. The kyubi is the strongest of them, it'd be ridiculous if the others were immune.

Well why not? The Itachi and Sasuke dialog specified that the kyuubi could be controlled but it didn't mention any of the other bijuus, if it was possible to control all of the tailed beasts then why wouldn't they just refer to it as the power to control the beasts instead of specifing just the nine tails? Indeed it is the strongest of them all but you can't tell me that just because of that the other ones aren't worth controlling.

It wouldn't be that strange if different bloodline limits gave control over different beasts would it?

[XanBcoo]

I think I liked the tailed beasts better when they were a force of nature, rather than just tools that are being reclaimed.

[Assertn]

Well why not? The Itachi and Sasuke dialog specified that the kyuubi could be controlled but it didn't mention any of the other bijuus, if it was possible to control all of the tailed beasts then why wouldn't they just refer to it as the power to control the beasts instead of specifing just the nine tails? Indeed it is the strongest of them all but you can't tell me that just because of that the other ones aren't worth controlling.

It wouldn't be that strange if different bloodline limits gave control over different beasts would it?

What? That's ridiculous. You guys go on and on about how unexplainable the Uchiha clan's powers are, and then you prefer arbitrary relationships over observable ones. We've already seen firsthand just how Sasuke was able to control Manda, a giant monsterous creature that not even Oro could tame. We've known even since the Zabuza arc that one of the sharingan's abilities is hypnosis. If Kyubi could be controlled, couldn't it be suggested that its done with the same form of hypnosis, and that any creature that has a regular pair of eyes can be controlled the same way?

@Death Boo Z: I reiterate: A completely baseless empirical assumption.