Quote Originally Posted by docdan63
And about Sasuke, I'm going to settle thing once and for all.

He's strong because his brother and Orochiumaru made him that way. Yes he was the all star rookie when he graduated, but that doesn't mean shit now. 80% of what he has came from those two men training him. And don't pull the "so what if they trained him, now he's stronger because of it" bullshit on me. Yes he has EMS now and yes he's part of the akatsuki, but he can't compare to someone like Kisame, Madara, Pein or Konan. Most seem to think that he's the one to be the next god because of his eyes (once again that his brother gave him) One top of all that. People think that he's jounin level and that he's the level of Kakashi or other jounins in other countries. That fucked up right there. You all need to stop and take a look around. He just got back from training with Orochimaru and Kishi is already having him take orders from Madara on getting some bijuu for him.

I don't know. Yeah the kid is strong but you guys are way over playing his power and skill level. By massive levels and over statements. Most of what he's done now hasn't been very strong or impressive in my book. Here some impressive things to me

1. Kakashi ripping off Diedaras arm with his sharingan
5. Diedara being able to keep up with Gaara and also being able to create animals from just clay as well as giving them the ability to blow up
8. 4th sealing the 9 tails in his son
9. the 1st being able to control (repress whatever the fuck you want to call it) the bijuu with out the use of the Sharingan at his disposal.
10. the 1st also being able to summon and make 3 different types of jutsus. Earth water and from them, wood
11. Madara (and yes I know Sasuke probably has this ability now too) being able to command and control the Uchiha members during the Senju and Uchiha wars like they were his soldiers.
12. anyone who the village ninjas think is Kage material (except Tsunade, I'll never get how that happened. Or why they wanted Jiraiya)
13. the 4ths flash step move


Those are some of the things I actually tihnk are worth getting frothy over. The things that you people think are impressive aren't really that impressive at all.
Sasuke deal:
I'm probably one of the bigger Sasuke-haters, but I stilll think he's strong, and not just because of the plot-holes.
he was always exceptional, even as a genin, the bizzare powers he keeps getting can't change the fact, that he is a better ninja than anyone else around. he just makes a shitty person, and that's why he is going to lose.


1. You mean Kakashi throwing out a MSharingan from his ass with no reason (still no reason, a year after it happened), and his MSharingan is time\space cannon? that's no badass, that's retarded.
5. Gaara's sand wasn't so fast, it was a bit faster than Lee, and even considering improvement over these three years, the sand can't be properly relayed upon as a homing weapon.
8. That's hardly badass, that's bad parenting (remind me, does Naruto know of his origins yet?)
9. What's the difference between using one bloodline (uchiha bloodline) to supress the demons and using another bloodline (sengou bloodline)? the 1st also had a 'gift' to control them.
10. every jounin can use two elements, and combinning them comes natrually to bloodline ninja. is every jounin a badass in your book?
11. The uchihas don't seem to be so smart, the evidence supports this (two out of three uchihas are braindead idiots)
12. what? can you explain it? and what is(was) wrong with Jiraya?
13. Vegita said it better in DBZ 109 - "it's only hyper speed". so he's fast, and leaves an after-image, if that's enough to be an hokage, then I'm fit to be the supreme commander of the leaf navy.