we all agree that for the sake of the story to continue, there must be a way to fight logia users without using the corespondent element, right?Originally Posted by docdan63
Rayleigh seems to know it, so gol.d.roger probably knew it, and so did Shanks and whitebeard.
so it's safe to say that every pirate worth his level in NW knows at least bits of it.
meanning, we just leveled up every logia user in the story.
if beating them was as simple as finding their weak-point ("bullets, my only weakness!"), then they wouldn't have stayed admirals (who mostly hung around NW), so above the logia element abilities of defense, they know a whole bunch of tricks as well.
what's so bad with that?
note: Rayleigh, during his prime, was the 3rd strongest pirate in the world (blackbeard, whitebeard, Rayleigh?) Kizaru comes around number 4 in the marine list (sengoku, Garp, aoikoji, Kizaru. redmonkey viceadmiral). what's the big surprise about him being able to strike at Kizaru, especially when Kizaru isn't aware of him being there?
edit: oh, let's all party like it's 1999!