Naruto Shippuuden Episode 76-77

[Kraco]

There was no merit to the execution of the plan. What the heck were they just standing there like idiots when the dude refused to die? They should have started to chop him into cubic decimeter pieces as soon as they noticed that. But instead they took their jolly time talking shit and wondering how he could still talk shit back.

I also honestly thought, I have to admit to my eternal shame, that Naruto could already make a rasengan without a clone but was just doing that to trick his enemies so that he could take them completely by surprise by suddenly making one without a clone. But I guess the worst mistake you can make when watching Naruto indeed is to imagine the main character could have half a functional brain.

[Abdula]

I also honestly thought, I have to admit to my eternal shame, that Naruto could already make a rasengan without a clone but was just doing that to trick his enemies so that he could take them completely by surprise by suddenly making one without a clone.

I'm sorry Kraco, but what. Where did you ever get such an idea from. If Naruto could use rasengan with only one had he would have done so. Trying to trick and opponent or not, the time it takes to create a clone and then together create the rasengan and then try to hit someone is just ridiculous. I still can't believe anyone actually got hit with that technique.

[DarthEnderX]

See, now, talking about how stupid Naruto is, he's all "I can't shape and element at the same time, its like looking left and right at the same time!"

Really? Cause you have clones. You can look left and right at the same time. You already use a clone to shape your chakra for you, why don't you just use another clone to elemental the rasengan at the same time.

[Xyrox]

Really? Cause you have clones. You can look left and right at the same time. You already use a clone to shape your chakra for you, why don't you just use another clone to elemental the rasengan at the same time.

Damn. That makes a lot of sense - using Naruto logic. I can really see this happen now, and I don't like it.

If I were Naruto, I wouldn't spend time trying to invent a Superrasengan - something apparently Kakashi and the Forth failed to do. I would rather focus on learning to do Rasengan with one hand - for both hands. And practice taijutsu like crazy (seriously, Naruto hasn't even surpassed Sasuke's taijutsu from the Chuunin exam times). Then I could play around and cut leaves and waterfalls.

I fail to see why you need a more powerful Rasengan when you can't even land a hit with the regular one.

[Kraco]

I'm sorry Kraco, but what. Where did you ever get such an idea from.

Dunno. After all this time I should have realised he really learned zilch during the years he spent wandering with Jiraya but I guess it just hadn't sunk in. I'm really bad at accepting poor script writing, thinking there must always be something good somewhere out there.

[Abdula]

I'm really bad at accepting poor script writing, thinking there must always be something good somewhere out there.

Makes me wonder how you can still watch Naruto, but I guess you have built up your tolerance by now which is a good thing, because its only going to get worse.

There was no merit to the execution of the plan. What the heck were they just standing there like idiots when the dude refused to die? They should have started to chop him into cubic decimeter pieces as soon as they noticed that. But instead they took their jolly time talking shit and wondering how he could still talk shit back.

I think I can explain this too. As they mentioned their mission was to kill one of the Akatsuki and bring the other one back alive for interrogation and as Asuma said they were originally going to kill Hidan and bring Kakuzu back. Anyway since Hidan was completely immobile, with those two huge knives in him and Shikamaru's shadow binding, they were probably planning on bringing him back and they were just questioning him to find out where his partner was. If Hidan wasn't immortal or Kakuzu hadn't shown up when he did, their plan would have gone off without a hitch. Now the only thing they're going to get is a sound beating.

[Azonalanthious]

I'm sorry Kraco, but what. Where did you ever get such an idea from. If Naruto could use rasengan with only one had he would have done so. Trying to trick and opponent or not, the time it takes to create a clone and then together create the rasengan and then try to hit someone is just ridiculous. I still can't believe anyone actually got hit with that technique.

The really goofy part of the whole thing as far as I am concerned is that Naruto CAN (if memory serves) use rasengan without a clone. I haven't kept all the back episodes, so I can't go back and watch to double check without redownloading, but I'm almost positive that he used it successfuly back when he was first learning it without a clone - he needed both hands, but not a clone. It wasn't until he immobilized his off-hand by using it to catch a kunai while fighting... damn... the Oro medical ninja with glasses whose name I just went completely blank on for some reason, during the fight between Oro, Tsunade, and Jiraya that he used a clone to make it, since his other hand was occupied at the time. But ever since then, even when he has had both hands free, he's used a clone every friggin' time.

Why the heck can't I remember that guy's name? Mutter...

[Tyreal]

The really goofy part of the whole thing as far as I am concerned is that Naruto CAN (if memory serves) use rasengan without a clone. I haven't kept all the back episodes, so I can't go back and watch to double check without redownloading, but I'm almost positive that he used it successfuly back when he was first learning it without a clone - he needed both hands, but not a clone. It wasn't until he immobilized his off-hand by using it to catch a kunai while fighting... damn... the Oro medical ninja with glasses whose name I just went completely blank on for some reason, during the fight between Oro, Tsunade, and Jiraya that he used a clone to make it, since his other hand was occupied at the time. But ever since then, even when he has had both hands free, he's used a clone every friggin' time.

Why the heck can't I remember that guy's name? Mutter...

The guy you're thinking of is Kabuto. And you're right he has made it without a clone before, however he does need both hands. The only exception to this is when he fought Sasuke at the valley of the end, although he was in Kyuubi mode when he done it with only one hand and no clones.