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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Hmm.... So, you think the ruin is just a general term for the collapse of the robotic civilization and not a concrete term for any specific ailment? I kept thinking it was a nanobot or whatever infection because it seemed to affect the robots pretty fast and considering how dry many parts of that world look like, general rusting of metals should be slow indeed.
    Not saying that. This disease that is affecting robots is just that they're rusting... they call that Ruin. The only reason this really affects them is because there is a lack of resources in the world to fix their "disease". So, I'm just saying that both humans and robots are being affected by this lack of resources... humans go hungry, robots get ruined. But in the end, they're both being affected by the same thing. So just as robots call their disease ruin, the world is in ruin... and the cause for the robots' demise is also causing the human's demise (but as pointed out before, the humans were already on a downfall even before this particular problem started).

    If there were resources, robots wouldn't care about the ruin... they'd rust, but they would simply get fixed and go on with it.

    But who knows, you may be right... maybe there's something that is attacking the robots per se. But I also think that the current state of the world (weather, etc.) is making the robots rust quicker than usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu
    Not saying that. This disease that is affecting robots is just that they're rusting... they call that Ruin. The only reason this really affects them is because there is a lack of resources in the world to fix their "disease". So, I'm just saying that both humans and robots are being affected by this lack of resources...

    If there were resources, robots wouldn't care about the ruin... they'd rust, but they would simply get fixed and go on with it.
    was pretty sure that "the Doctor" in episode 2 said something about it being more than just rust and damage, but also that they're unable to repair or replace the damaged parts.

    found it:
    "Our bodies slowly begin to rust. They no longer accept spare parts or repairs. We can't build new robots either."

    also, from episode 2.
    "Something was spread over the world, and even the conscious-less earth... Well, take a look. With great vigor, everything turned into a lump of insanity.... This is the end result of a life-force without a consciousness. Not a single thing was completed after that. The ones who spread chaotic life across this world were the humans who created us."

    It's not just that everything is breaking down. It seems to be a lot more. In fact, from the Story Teller, it looks like it's less about a lack of resources and more about a lack of something intrinsic and spiritual. Now, god only knows what that could be inside of a robot, but, since they cry, laugh, fall in love and all the rest, I guess it's not too much of a jump to say that there's some kind of 'spirit energy' thing missing.

    And, sure, if you want to go and say spirtual energy or souls or whatever are "resources", then, fine, I can't argue with you then. But it's not just a lack of what we'd traditionally call 'resources'.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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