I don't mind Misaka (plus clones) appearing but this series is starting to resemble one of those pot foods prepared by a no-cooking-skills anime girl where you have all manner of ingredients floating around and no harmony what-so-ever. I'm sure it's not supposed to be like that, but Everon has a valid point: This is nothing but mindless harem building unless they try to have all the people do something sensible, Index being the prime example.
Take into consideration this is based on a series of Light Novels. And every novel has its own story.
For instance... episodes 1 to 5 where the first novel. 6 to 9 are the second novel. Episode 10 began the 3rd one, which features the second co-heroine mostly.
Despite the series having the name 'Index', the main character is Touma, and the two co-heroines are Index and Mikoto. It just happens that Mikoto didn't have really much to do, sans the 'prologue' (first episode)
Mikoto became so popular she got her own manga in the 'A Certain Scientific Railgun' series, where Kuroko is the co-star. Touma appears as well, but Index doesn't.
I see. I guess it can't be helped then. Thanks for the info.
A translation of the 1st Novel's prologue. The scene where Touma sees Mikoto at the bridge, prior to meeting Index for the first time. Lots of info not seen at the anime though.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...39&postcount=4
Ouch, what a cruel way to kill someone. Good episode, expands on the explanations of the clones. I hope Touma can stop all of this madness.
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Awesome episode. This arc is looking sharp.
I wonder how the dude's clothes stay on him. He said his skin is autorepelling everything, so his clothes should be slipping off all the time. What a plothole. Actually he shouldn't be able to walk, because he would be reflecting the ground below his feet (though in reality he would repel himself up because you can hardly push the ground anywhere unless you are standing on thin ice or something). In fact, how can he breath, because he should be pushing off the air that approaches his mouth?
And funny wind power plants they have there... If it's not windy, they will apparently suck electricity from the grid. Whoever designed them should be fired and soon.
It was an entertaining enough episode, though, even if the parts with Index & co were really purposelessly slapped on and only so that nobody would forget them.
It was an okay episode to me. This Accelerator guy, seems to be quite the unbeatable foe. I would like to see more background info on him, to see how he obtained such a power. Index didn't get much screen time, which to me is a plus. I prefer Misaka Mikoto, so I'm liking this arc. Also Himegami = win.
The epicness of the episode went down a bit with the idiotic Index scene.
Wow... just wow. The arc is as great as I expected. I wouldn't mind a harem of Misaka clones.
Kuroko Shirai is a great character... I love her jealousness, and how she glomped Mikoto's bed.
A fact that was left out, when Touma found the notes, was why Accelerator is killing the clones. I will not state what it is, in case it is revealed next episode.
Oh yeah... another scene that was left out was Mikoto hugging the weird bear Touma found. This should have happened last episode.
The science side of things is definitely more tense, will less explanations and more well-paced action.
As for the Accelerator's vector-change plothole, it could work out if he can assign functions to various items. That way, he could tell it to disregard his clothes, shoes etc, but any foreign objects not previously assigned will be "reflected" by default. Kind of like a firewall.
Having that ability would make him immensely, if not overpowered though. Unlike him, Touma doesn't have an off-switch for his arm, and has to think his way through situations to utilise it, or get around its weakness. That's what makes these fights interesting.
-Selfish Miko hogging all the meat made me lol.
As for MISAKA clones....I wonder if they all wear different underpants
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Yeah, that must be how it works, for it to work at all (without a plothole). However, I think it reasonable, if things are indeed like that, that Touma should be able to develop his power sufficiently to create an on/off switch, at least to a degree, and also the other way around: to have the ability also elsewhere than just his right hand. It wouldn't make much sense if Touma's power was 100% fixed while others can control theirs as much as they want. That would be nothing but another plothole.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
Not really. Power levels and conditions for its use are not sufficiently elaborated. It may very well be possible for some people to have 100% fixed powers. Touma would be way too overpowered otherwise.
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Touma would never be overpowered. He can't do anything against anything but magic and other mystic (or scientific like this series calls them) powers. Take a pipe and hit him in the head, and his powers will be good for nothing, unlike this Accelerator fellow or Railgun's powers. Or if somebody's powers allow them to accelerate a physical object to high speed, Touma can't do anything about it, because it's not anymore magic but simple classical momentum he would be fighting against. Or make a structure collapse on him. You can't really be calling that overpowered. And especially since his own power has zero attack strength, and only grants a surprise factor once against an opponent with half a brain.
Yes, I think the confrontation will be very interresting against that guy.
In fact they're almost similar, to me that guy has near zero attack power too, but is used to use it.
He can't do anything against something with no vectors... be it energy, momentum etc...
You could say they are both very high in defense, but it should produce nothing if both of them can't produce any attack.
Regarding touma's oponents having no brains, maybe, but since that hand is so good at eliminating any paranormal power, it's hard on a powerful oponent to accept and change drastically their way of attacking in order to crush Touma.
In the last fight we also get the feeling Touma has incredible recovery abilities, it seems it was limited to his arm... but who knows? Maybe there's a key here... eventough he didn't recover from his memory loss...
Why do I stress that point? well after all he didn't burn when he was in innocentis furnace. I understand his hand can absorb that power, but not on all sides, does it?
Last but not least, Touma may be very smart when he's in battle mode, but that can't be helped since he is the main character and needs a way to win or survive at least.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
That is indeed very true and also very realistic, and it allows Touma to survive a little longer than he otherwise would. But it's not really a surprise factor anymore, it's just something hard to accept and adapt to to the opponents, but nevertheless the opponents will be much more cautious already even if they still try, in vain, to use purely supernatural attacks.
True, but Accelerator can easily create something like momentum and use his "defense" as "offense", such as throwing a rock in mid air and kicking it. Since vectors are composed of both magnitude and direction, "vector change" can effectively cause anything moving to fly with a speed and direction of his choice.
Actually, it doesn't even have to be moving. Even objects at rest are under constant acceleration (gravity) downwards, meaning anything he touches can effectively be accelerated towards something else.
This guy is officially overpowered.
That is, unless he has some sort of limit, like if he can only apply one "function" at a time, leaving an opening for Touma to think out an attack with his Imagine Breaker.
One other point that'll need clarifying is how this "vector change" is used. Is it simply applied on contact, and moves without intervention afterwards, or does his skin leave a "constant change" effect for the duration of its flight path?
Reason I say this is because it's critical to whether Touma can counter it with his Imagine Breaker. If Accelerator's esper powers are only applied once, then he can do nothing but dodge. However, if Accelerator's effect is lasting (ie, the "vector change" can only be applied once, but then has to actively maintain the changed vector), then a touch with Touma's hand will return the object to its original vector.
e.g: If a rock that hit Touma's hand was thrown at Mach 3 using Vector Change, if case 2 applied, then upon hitting Touma's hand, it would slow down to the point as of it was thrown normally (physically) by Accelerator.
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Keep the clones. Just leave me the pantsHands off. Mikoto and her clones are mine
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Tue, 12-16-2008 at 07:33 AM.
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Well he was conscise enough while talking about the vector change.
To me it was clear he only acts as a miror, he can change some parameters.
Maybe I was wrong before, to me he only changes directions, but not intensity, energy, velocity.
He can choose any direction, and he set that to reflection as default. He's some kind of universal miror.
I wonder what Imagine Breaker can do with it. What would be an inversion of the Imagine Breaker if we suppose the Imagine Breaker doesn't just anihilate the Vector power. Then what will happen of the power if Touma can actually touch him too... I suppose that would deactivate the power.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
I think he can only change direction, not speed. If Touma manages to get a hold of him, Touma will just beat the shit out of him like he did everyone else he fought.
Being able to neutralize every mystical attack on all sides at will is not overpowered? Teach him how to use a gun (a real one) and he will be.
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