Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
I think you're giving too much credit to Kimbo though. His ground game is nonexistent, and by his own admission, he'd do a lot better if he actually spent any time training it. He's a one-dimensional puncher, like Houston Alexander or Drew McFedries. If these guys ever developed their wrestling and BJJ, they'd be monsters. Instead they're cellar dwellers in their divisions.
That is true but that fight really annoyed me and I like Kimbo. Yeah he is still a one dimensional fighter but that kinda is why he is on the show in the first place isn't it. If Kimbo manages to get a ground game or he at least learns enough to be able to get off his back when he gets taken down then he'll be an okay fighter, not spectacular but no one is expecting him to be the greatest fighter in UFC history.
Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
That was far from lay and pray by Nelson. Putting someone in the crucifix position is excellent ground work, not laying on them. If Nelson wasn't such a fatass, he'd have moved into proper crucifix position to isolate Kimbo's head and done some real damage.
Yeah when a guy punches you in the face and you get scared, take him down and lay on top of him until the ref stops the fight then yeah its lay and pray. He actually mounted Kimbo a couple times during the fight and made no attempt to posture up and strike instead he was content to smother him with his belly fat. You may not call it lay and pray but he really did nothing from the top and won the fight simply because Kimbo wasn't able to get back up.