Yeah, a bigger rasengan and ......... ?Originally Posted by poopdeville
Maybe it's just hopeful thinking but in theory he could learn a filler jutsu that could be added to some none-canon fighting scenes in the future.
Jiraiya taught him summoning and the rasengan.
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Also, breaking/dispelling illusions and the 'safe' limits of the demon fox cloak and what triggers it. Additionally, there are a few minor things that haven't been discussed in series, but that I felt Naruto had improved at. Notably, his Taijustus has seems stronger to me then it was pre-skip.
Also, one thing to remember is that it was stated at one point that it took the fourth 3 years to develop rasengen. Under Jiraiya, in the same time of 3 years, Naruto developed a new version without using Kakashi's clone training method. So I don't think we can really trash Jiraiya TOO much as a trainer.
The fourth created a new A jutsu out of nowhere, a jutsu who had the capability to be improved to S status.
Naruto made it a little bigger...
Very true. But... the Fourth was the Fourth - genius ninja, hokage, and all around awsome dude. Naruto is Naruto - complete idiotic moron who - technically speaking (he did fail the final exam after all) - should never have made it out of the academy. Expecting true equal performance out of them would be silly. For him to improve on a potential S ranked technique in the same time it took the Fourth to create it isn't too bad on the improvement scale in my book.
And yet we keep getting fed bullshit like "You have surpassed the fourth" and "You have surpassed me (Kakashi)" just because he developed the ultimate hack jutsu.
I think you people haven't truly understood that after this naruto can take out anyone with just 1 lucky shot, and hes got hes shonen powers to do so, meaning that there isn't a single opponent in the whole naruto world he cant defeat now.
Except Tsunade. Shounen rules dictate he can't be Hokage till the very end. Tsunade wins by default.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It's true. They've got it set up that nothing can survive a rasenshuriken.
Fortunately, anyone who's not retarded will never get hit by it.
Unfortunately, anyone facing Naruto will suddenly become retarded. Even if previously shown to be a careful and tactical opponent.
I agree, but I'd describe it differently. A lot of people here complain because Naruto always uses the same two moves. That much is true. But they are really strong moves. Jiraiya didn't need to teach Naruto new moves. Naruto has always had trouble with chakra control and concentration, and I can definitely see improvements in those areas since the time-jump. He might not pull off awesome plans like Shikamaru, but a constant onslaught of kage bunshin will keep the enemy from thinking up a plan of their own, while Naruto (or a clone) can calmly think of an effective plan.
With a little bit of smarts, the kage bunshin and rasengan are deadly, as we have seen. If there's a complaint to be made here, it's that the animators are bad at pacing fights.
And anyway, Naruto can use up to four tails if he has to. Yamato and Sai might have been dismissive about Naruto's powers during his fight with Orochimaru, but if the Nine-Tails had really taken control, it basically would have unsealed itself. Jiraiya already said that Naruto's anger is what brings the tails out -- if the Kyuubi was in charge at four tails, he could have made Naruto angrier. Why wouldn't it make 5 more tails pop out of Naruto's buttocks if it could?
And if Naruto is in charge, I say it is his power, since it is his to use.
Exactly, like I already said. The director that does all the best Naruto fights has a habit of adding parts to those fights that make them more awesome. Sometimes he even adds abilities(for example, Shikamaru's use of the water scroll on Kakuzu).
They could give Naruto some new low level abilities. Like a wind slice like Sora's, and that gives that director something else to work with when he's adding those little filler moments to the fight scenes.
I agree with this. Sasuke didn't even get serious in his fight with Squad 7. He might have learned a bunch of stuff he didn't bother to use on them because he wasn't pushed.
I think that the point is that after a 3 year skip, we wanted Naruto to have learned some actually NEW abilities. Instead of minor improvements to a couple of his old ones.
I agree it would be doable but lets face,it, probably not going to happen. It would be too awesome.
my main and only real expectation for him after the time skip was that he was gonna start making a rasengan without the clone. but I lost hope in that awhile ago, especially now that he's using that same type of thing on his new move..
seriously, Jiraiya, and Kakashi make it with 1 hand. Naruto hasn't even perfected the rasengan, he just got a cheap way to do it years ago, and he's too lazy to advance. I don't get why he's trying to create additions when he should get the basics down.
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