Naruto Chapter 433

[enkoujin]

The only connection the two have is being sons of past kages in their respective towns. That's it. So even trying to compare the two is idiotic. Gaara probably didn't even know basic ninjutsu simply because he didn't have too. The priests spirit and the sand did all the work for him.

How could you not compare Gaara and Naruto? They both fought evenly at their battles, and their match is considered one of Naruto's rightful winning battles. Both characters serve as vessels for their respective Jinchuuriki and have been at one period in their lives suffered the burden and outcast by the other villagers in their village. Gaara serves as a juxtaposed character to Naruto as possibility in how Naruto would have become (insane, and unable to realize Tamari and Kankuro's anguished love), had he not met Iruka, and Team Seven. Gaara now represents one of those touched by Naruto's spirit and change that results in the contemporary Gaara we have now - an appreciated Kage instead of a societal "monster".

I still don't know why people respect this Naruto kid.

Unfortunately, your ignorance cannot be surpassed with this greatest statement, whether the context is with the anime or manga viewers or the villagers in the village. Let me just state the obvious:

1. He's the protagonist. Hence the title, "Naruto".
2. He's the shounen boy who has the power to surpass everyone with hard work despite being looked down upon by other characters. The audience can familiarize with Naruto's character because he's the kind of character who can show people up for underestimating him.
3. Even if he had help from his comrades, or if most of his opponents were weakened previously to his presence, he still defeated him. It's like saying that even if Haku sacrificed himself to save Zabuza, Kakashi still killed him. I don't see anyone complaining about this, so why Naruto?
4. He has the power to change lives with his philosophy. I believe a recent US President may have similar characteristics with this one, and a landslide majority of the population voted in his favour.
5. He's Yondaime's son. Yondaime is a prodigy, so many would expect great potential in Naruto himself. Contrasting to this is the White Fang and Kakashi. White Fang was a ninja genius, and Kakashi is now as well.
6. During the Chuunin exam, Naruto had equally fought Neji and won. Even up until now, the Hyuuga clan is considered a noble clan with a desirable bloodline, and Neji is a prime example of their clan's skill and during this time, was considered a "genius". He is now a Jounin while everyone else are Chuunins.
7. Etc.

He hangs out with frogs for godssake. Isn't that a bit odd to anyone?

Poor argument. I am quite sure that no one thought that it was odd how Jiraiya "hangs out" with frogs before or how Kakashi talks to Pakkun (the dog). These frogs are supernatural consciences that provide spiritual and power increments to Naruto's strength.

but he has had some MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR help from those giant giant frogs.

Manda. Had Sasuke not used Manda to substitute his place, Sasuke would have died. I would consider that too as well as "MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR help".

but Pain only needed other bodies. And no, I don't consider Pains bodies a form of help. They're just an extension of himself, with another Akatsuki coat on them. If anything, they're just spread out pieces of jutsu amongst 6 other bodies. They all don't know how to summon animals.

Sounds close to Naruto's signature move, eh?

They all can't absorb jutsu based attacks. Only the big guy can.

Seems more like a disadvantage on how one person is a specialized shield while Naruto's shadow clones can all be a shield in a way.

I honestly think that it's still to early for Naruto to become strong. Way too early.

It's been 433 chapters. How long do you want to wait until Naruto begins to be, in your standards, to be "strong"? Another year? Another five years? I'm sorry, your majesty, maybe ten years may cater to your tastes as a good transition for Naruto to be "strong" and to be at an equivalence with Sasuke or Madara. How stronger can Naruto get? From the recent display of excellent battle tactics, it is clear to us that Naruto does know how to fight at a decent level now. He's outwitting Pain, the leader of the Rain Village, and the pseudo-Akatsuki leader with basic transformation techniques.

Another thing is that, pain isn't something same old same old. This is Kishi's best character design over all. From piercings being used as the chakra antennas, to the splitting up of the jutsus and skills through the six bodies. It's fucking brilliant.

Personal opinion, doesn't add to argument.

Blond fuck head is just getting help from his dads old buddies and a whole kind of chakra. Which I think is one of Kishi's worst ideas. Eventually, he would suck the trees and rocks and animals dry with a long enough fight. It isn't endless. He'll start killing nature around him too.

Your arguments present a number of contradictions to the Naruto universe and effectively "destructure" your own arguments. Isn't Pain, "Kishi's best character design", just getting help from Jiraiya [his sensei]'s old opponents [buddies] and a whole kind of chakra [chakra emitting-antenna receiving waves] (plus, not to mention the Jinchuuriki chakra you failed to realize yourself in regards to Gaara and Naruto).

tl;dr - I am tired of seeing your terrible anti-Naruto arguments, and so are many people. Your ignoramus-like atttitude prevents you from comprehending the actual character of Naruto whilst being impressed by those characters and villains who are very comparable in nature. How many teams spawned out of the academy? And how many of those actual thirty [uncertain] individuals became above Jounin-rank levels who are able to wreak absolute havoc and destruction? Naruto and Sasuke, that's who!