Naruto Chapter 447

[poopdeville]

I really like how Payne speaks, but the entire battle thing makes him like a complete tool (negative meaning). We were all supposed to think that Payne is so awesome because he killed Hanzo, but in the end, it was the rinngan that killed Hanzo, and payne's ability had nothing to do with it.
he's another gaara\kimimaru\zombie-duo\Sasuke\Itachi\sound-four clone. he was born with an amazing power, and this power dictates the entire course of his life. he's a loser.

also, we were led to believe that Payne uprising and taking over the rain country (killing Hanzo and all) were somewhat recent happenings (Jiraya didn't know about it) but now we see that it has happened many years ago, even before the creation of the current Akatsuki (most likely, even before Itachi went postal), and that leaves quite a time gap.

I agree. It was especially stupid to kill his own friend and THEN attack Hanzo.

But Hanzo didn't die this chapter, as far as I can tell. "Shunshin no Jutsu" is the "body flicker" jutsu. Hanzo "teleported" away before the weird statue summon touched him.

[Archangel]

I agree. It was especially stupid to kill his own friend and THEN attack Hanzo.

Before watching his friend die right in front of him he did not yet have the power to go up against hanzo

All that shit he pulled off came from his rage, just like the previous 2 times he was attacked

[poopdeville]

Before watching his friend die right in front of him he did not yet have the power to go up against hanzo

All that shit he pulled off came from his rage, just like the previous 2 times he was attacked

I disagree. I do like your reading better, but if that is what Kishimoto intended, he didn't do such a good job. In particular, Nagato obviously knew how to summon the statue before this incident -- both he and Konan knew about it. He even knew its name. And the statue was the move that turned the tide here.

Only the vector-arrow jutsu could potentially be a rage move he later mastered.