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    Naruto Chapter 449

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    Not the way I expect things to end at first, but it wasn't so bad.
    I did really expect Pain to do this... to free all the souls he took. Though I wonder how he managed Kakashi... since his soul wasn't taken. A nail-hole on the forehead is kinda hard to recover...

    Oh well. Seems we are back to Uchiha-land.

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    Abandon all hope ye who read these pages.

    It's over. Any chance this manga had of being more than a mildly entertaining story to follow is gone. There is no coming back from what's just been done. At the very least, we know Kishimoto is fully capable of writing a compelling story if he so chooses. I'll take what solace I can find in that.

    edit: Late as it is, tired as I am, my heart just sunk at the chapter and I had to post this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    Not the way I expect things to end at first, but it wasn't so bad.
    I did really expect Pain to do this... to free all the souls he took. Though I wonder how he managed Kakashi... since his soul wasn't taken. A nail-hole on the forehead is kinda hard to recover...
    Oh well. Seems we are back to Uchiha-land.
    Kakashi used the MS to teleport the nail into another dimension. He died from chakra exhaustion remember?

    Not a bad way to un-do all the deaths, not really want I wanted to see happen, but what are you going to do? I am curious what Sasuke is going to do once he sees Konoha destroyed.

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    Not the way I expect things to end at first, but it wasn't so bad.
    I did really expect Pain to do this... to free all the souls he took. Though I wonder how he managed Kakashi... since his soul wasn't taken. A nail-hole on the forehead is kinda hard to recover...

    Oh well. Seems we are back to Uchiha-land.
    Nothing is mentioned about souls he took. Its power over life and death period. He's just expending what is left in his body to bring back everyone who died since he invaded Konoha.

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    It makes sense at least. Someone who only knew feelings of hate and revenge towards his enemies all his life... when met with someone like Naruto, who just forgave him in a matter of minutes. He overcame all his overwhelming emotions of revenge, of retribution for ALL THREE of his masters. Makes perfect sense why Pain changed his mind, after seeing someone do the same.



    oh yeah and KAKASHI'S STILL ALIVE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    I don't exactly get what happened. Did Nagato blow up into paper or something? And now, I guess, the Rinnegan has a life of its own. It's passed on, and the next person to have it should have all the powers of the previous Rinnegan users...or something. Naruto has a new g/f now, I suppose. Hinata is more well endowed, but it's hard to tell with that cloak, and she seems like she would be freakier than Hinata, though. What will Naruto choose?

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    As much as I liked Shizune..... I wanted the dead to stay dead. Except for Kakashi, but I never believed him to be dead anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by this chapter
    War brings death... and wounds and pain to both sides
    There's nothing harder to accept than the deaths of those you love
    ... so you believe... they could never die

    so, he writes that dialog, and sticks it into this plot? how does that work?


    and why does Qunan quit the akatsuki? by rules of seniority, she should be the leader, so if she wants, she can disband the giant statue (do they need it right now?) and actually atone for Payne's creepy sins (they were justified for the end cause, but now they're pointless).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z

    and why does Qunan quit the akatsuki? by rules of seniority, she should be the leader, so if she wants, she can disband the giant statue (do they need it right now?) and actually atone for Payne's creepy sins (they were justified for the end cause, but now they're pointless).
    She was just a tool. Just a follower of her friends. Without a reason to be in akatsuki why wouldn't she quit?

    And Im guessing she knows Madara wouldn't take a pizza order from her... let alone follow her into battle.

    Isn't she atoning for those sins by backing Naruto with the entire Amekagure? Idk how far she'd get on her own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemane_no_Jutsu
    She was just a tool. Just a follower of her friends. Without a reason to be in akatsuki why wouldn't she quit?

    And Im guessing she knows Madara wouldn't take a pizza order from her... let alone follow her into battle.

    Isn't she atoning for those sins by backing Naruto with the entire Amekagure? Idk how far she'd get on her own.

    tool or not. she's still a co-founder of akatsuki, she at least deserves to take the statue back (doesn't it belong to payne?)
    if she knows about Madare (she probably does, right?) then she can warn naruto of him, and if she doesn't, then she should consider herself the head of akatsuki (what's left of it) and take it upon herself to disband it (though, there's hardly anyone left, only Zetsou and Kisame are still alive from the original members).

    the entire amekagure probably amounts to shit. the village was through an on-going civil war, so everyone who might have been strong was killed by either payne or hanzo. not to mention the village was never a big village.

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    Ok, so he has control over life and death... Never occurred to him to revive his friend? No? Not at all?
    there are a lot of possible arguments, most of them make almost no sense. but that's how it goes. he didn't. it's a big ninja-elephant in the room, so we're all going to walk around it.


    what's going to happen with Roots now? Danzou is down there, so sure that everybody is dead, and when he gets out, the village is up and running again. If tsunade will still live, I think she should put him in prison (conspiring to take over the village, fleeing in the face of danger, treason)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Thank god for one piece
    I should have posted this b4 -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Thank god for one piece
    If Oda ever pulls a miraculous revivification like that, I'll stop reading.

    Heh.
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    Just as I expected.

    The end of Akatsuki, based on what has happened, we could foresee. Madara making his move with the remaining Akatsuki members. It was also strange that when Itachi died, there was no commentary about it within Akatsuki as a whole. Which could mean that Madara was clearly hiding things from Pain or there just never was any time to inform Pain of it.

    I don't think the series will end till another big war starts. Can't wait to see how that unfolds! And come on, it had to be obvious from the start that these characters wouldn't remain dead. Kakashi "died" for Chouji and his shitty father, and Shizune got randomly owned out of nowhere. Fukasaku got owned randomly too. It seemed obvious to me anyway that most of the characters wouldn't remain dead.

    Then again I'm probably in the minority when I say that it was good that characters didn't die during the Sasuke chase arc. All of Naruto's comrades are the "next generation", a term which has been pushed by the adult ninjas for a long time now. It's obvious that it wasn't their time to go at that time, nor is it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    there are a lot of possible arguments, most of them make almost no sense. but that's how it goes. he didn't. it's a big ninja-elephant in the room, so we're all going to walk around it.


    In Soviet Russia, ninja elephant walks around you!

    Sorry... *bows head and walks away*

    Back on topic:

    With only Kisame (he'll be taken down by Suigetsu(was that waterboys name?) and plantman (I don't really predict anyone killing him for any reason tbh...) left, do they even have enough people to capture more of the tails? They needed like a full crew standing on the fingers sacrificing chakra.

    I'm just too bummed out about Konoha to be excited about future chapters now, are we going to have to go through several chapters of rebuilding and friendly banter among the wounded before Sasuke comes there to kill Shizune again? Oh I know! We haven't seen Kakashi lying in a hospital bed for quite a few chapters.
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    Even though they did it again, I think it was a great chapter. (Did it again... meaning they kill off a bunch of people but they're brought back) I thought Sasuke was back here :

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/449/11/

    even though it was a gray panel I was thinking that he'd shown up right then, but I guess he's on his way now.

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    7th Pain better have been the real one...

    But I guess he broke the cycle of hatred and war, if someone killed your mother, your father, your sister and your wife, could you let them be? In our society I have seen of it, where someone is murdered and the guilty person will ask for forgiveness and the parents / spouse will give it. Its why we can function and claim to be an advanced society. (in theory) By making Naruto feel Pain and at Pain's level, and then being able to control himself and rationalize and talk of peace, from a position of power (meaning it seemed like he could have killed Pain there if he wanted) Naruto passed a test of sorts and at the same time peace is possible.

    I have to say from that perspective, well written arc. But the dead should stay dead. But no one I cared for besides Kakashi died so I'll take it for what its worth.

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    Well, at least he didn't restore the village. But the massive revival of the dead came pretty close. And I agree: dead should stay dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honoko
    Well, at least he didn't restore the village. But the massive revival of the dead came pretty close. And I agree: dead should stay dead.
    HAHAHA... I'm glad I'm not alone here. I mean, you get attached to some of these charactors, especially Kakashi. But just like the Sasuke chase arc... I wanted them all to just die. They fought tough battles, and went out w\ a bang... until you find out they were still alive.

    Kakashi is the exception here because I think the consensus is that he didn't really go out with the bang that he deserves to go out with.

    and on that note... Kakashi dying by sasuke's hand would make me happy; but at this point I'm not sure what sasuke is going to do when he finds konoha has been turned into rubble.

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