Naruto Chapter 449

[RasenDori]

Uhmmmm they do... i won`t spoil though.

no character in one piece has ever died outside of a flashback. END.

Claymore

claymore and all the other books in jump SQ are aimed at an older audience the WSJ. case in point is watsuki's embalming. after 3 oning series in WSJ that all have overall happy moods, watsuki is finally able to write something more depressing.

He will retcon, remember the dead relatives and friends nagato had yet didnt res whith his technique it`s either a plot hole or it will be retconed, you`ll see.

just before he dies nagato states that its not too late for those he killed in konoha. meaning that there is a time limit and implying that he couldnt do this we yahiko or his parents died

Must EVERY villian in Naruto be redeemed? zabuza... haku... gaara... itachi... sasori.. orochimaru, the only villians that didnt got redeemed (zombie pairs) maintained their badass factor after losing.

is it really that bad for a bad guy to have a heart? besides i dont remember orochimaru or sasori redeeming themselves. and haku was never really that bad. it sounds more like to me you dont want to see the villain's back story. lest face it, all those characters were stronger then hidan and kakuzu.

Asuma`s dead didn`t made Shika quit, there really is no way to confirm if he would`ve quit or not.

sasuke rescue arc shikamaru was a lazy quitter. failing his first mission as a team leader and his whole crew returning in stretchers was hard enough, but if his best friend came back in a body bag, you think he would continue? post time skip shikamaru is much more mature. the situations cant even be compared. if anything the sasuke mission prepared him to asuma's death in the future.

A character killed just for shock value only to be revided 5 chapters after is just cheap storytelling.

The fact that pain would destroy the village and then later revive them all doesnt really sink in if they are all nameless faces. if you are going to make that decision its better to kill characters the readers know and have emotional attachments to. otherwise no really cares.

[Board of Command]

no character in one piece has ever died outside of a flashback. END.

Somebody just died in episode 391.

[UChessmaster]

no character in one piece has ever died outside of a flashback. END.

I could PM you the name of a character that died if you would like.

claymore and all the other books in jump SQ are aimed at an older audience the WSJ. case in point is watsuki's embalming. after 3 oning series in WSJ that all have overall happy moods, watsuki is finally able to write something more depressing.

I`m quite aware the target audience Claymore was aimed at, my point is not ALL WSJ have that redeemen BS.

just before he dies nagato states that its not too late for those he killed in konoha. meaning that there is a time limit and implying that he couldnt do this we yahiko or his parents died

I can understand the parents, him not being able to fully control his abilities, yet when Yahiko dies, you can clearly see how Nagato "awakens" and he is un FULL control of all his abilities, am i to beleive that instead of having all of his abilities. he has all of his abilities minus resing ability?

is it really that bad for a bad guy to have a heart? besides i dont remember orochimaru or sasori redeeming themselves. and haku was never really that bad. it sounds more like to me you dont want to see the villain's back story. lest face it, all those characters were stronger then hidan and kakuzu.

It`s not bad for me for characters who redeem themself, it`s just that he seems to do it in almost all of his character, im all up for characters back stories, but backstory doesnt necesarelly means he should explain why bad characters are bad. Orochimaru didn`t really redeem himself but they showed half a chapter explaining that he`s not really really evil, he just wants his parents back awwwwwwwwwww . Please, give me a break.

As for Sasori he gave all the info he had to Sakura when he had other choice such as... not letting himself get killed... or not talk... Again i`m all up for redeeming back stories, but some of them in Naruto are completely unnecesary, and Pain`s backstory is the worst one of them all. Tell me, should i give a fuck next time a character died? I honestly expected Gaara to be a one time only thing, but resing MOST of the village? that`s ridiculous, i don`t wanna compare Naruto with another certain anime that did this BS over and over again but Dra... NO I WILL NOT MENTION IT!!! So for now, ill close thir argument with a list of character that retained being liked without having their puppy killed.

- Dozu
- Zombie pair
- EVERY single villian in One Piece.

sasuke rescue arc shikamaru was a lazy quitter. failing his first mission as a team leader and his whole crew returning in stretchers was hard enough, but if his best friend came back in a body bag, you think he would continue? post time skip shikamaru is much more mature. the situations cant even be compared. if anything the sasuke mission prepared him to asuma's death in the future.

To answer your question, yes, yes i do, i`m also adding the small fact that there is absolutelly no way to tell what he would`ve done in a hypothetical question, so really, i`m not gonna argue this point anymore.

The fact that pain would destroy the village and then later revive them all doesnt really sink in if they are all nameless faces. if you are going to make that decision its better to kill characters the readers know and have emotional attachments to. otherwise no really cares.

The problem is that killing and then reviving destroys the entire arc, really, what was the point of this arc besides giving Tsunade haters a hard on every now and then? how would it be any diferent if it was said akatsuki was made out of 7 ppl and the original leader be Toby then have jiraiya die beated to death for peeking at a bunch of chicks in the bathroom?