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    Awesome Ep. The 'deredere' Beatrice bugged me ever since she showed up, people shouldn't just do 180 degree personality shifts like that. I almost wanted to write it off as her previous callousness somehow being related to the Endless Power which she passed to Eva within the game but I couldn't square that away as the personality shift was just too jarring.

    When Battler finally accused her of faking her help I was on the edge of my seat waiting for her to let loose that sweet cackle and Beatrice didn't disappoint at all. Well played indeed.
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    Has anyone tried figuring out the red web of truth concerning Nanjo's murder? Thought I'd list them all.

    After Jessica was injured, Eva was under Battler's constant surveillance. Therefore, Eva has a perfect alibi for murdering Nanjo.

    At the time of Nanjo's murder, Battler, Eva, and Jessica were alive.

    At the time of the crime, only Nanjo and Jessica were in the servant room.

    Jessica Ushiromiya did not commit murder!

    Eva and Battler weren't involved in Nanjo's murder either!!

    No more than 18 people exist on this island!

    Nanjo's death was a homicide, and the culprit killed him from point-blank range!

    Red only tells the truth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek
    Has anyone tried figuring out the red web of truth concerning Nanjo's murder? Thought I'd list them all.

    After Jessica was injured, Eva was under Battler's constant surveillance. Therefore, Eva has a perfect alibi for murdering Nanjo.

    At the time of Nanjo's murder, Battler, Eva, and Jessica were alive.

    At the time of the crime, only Nanjo and Jessica were in the servant room.

    Jessica Ushiromiya did not commit murder!

    Eva and Battler weren't involved in Nanjo's murder either!!

    No more than 18 people exist on this island!

    Nanjo's death was a homicide, and the culprit killed him from point-blank range!

    Red only tells the truth!
    I think it's pretty easy. Someone else killed him.

    Best bet is Kanon for a couple reasons.
    Kanon can be "dead" and still be alive, according to my theory.
    Kanon shows up and helps Jessica escape.

    Guessing the motivations for people is significantly harder. I feel like game 3 is the hardest to sort out at the beginning.

    I think this is the game where "things went wrong" for the regular murderer(s). Obviously a couple unusual things happened, all of the servants "died" and Eva found the gold.

    I feel like game 3 is probably servants vs. adults at the beginning, with Nanjo playing both sides and some of the servants faking death. After that, Eva finds the gold, and it becomes a 3-way battle. Kanon probably kills Nanjo because he was going to kill Jessica or he had betrayed their side in some way and he found out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek
    Has anyone tried figuring out the red web of truth concerning Nanjo's murder? Thought I'd list them all.
    Jessica Ushiromiya did not commit murder!

    Eva and Battler weren't involved in Nanjo's murder either!!
    Isn't the difference between these two terms the key? Eva and Battler were not involved [in any way] in Nanjo's murder, but Jessica merely did not commit murder. Perhaps she caused Nanjo's accidental death inadvertently. She didn't commit murder, but her actions led to his death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek
    Nanjo's death was a homicide, and the culprit killed him from point-blank range!

    If the subs are 100% accurate (which I doubt), then it would cause some problems with Ryllharu's proposal, since it's referring to Nanjo's death as a homicide AND a murder, meaning whoever killed him did it with the intent to kill.

    That said, I'm more inclined to believe the term "murder" is there for convenience, while the meaning behind "homicide" was used very intentionally.

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