Bakemonogatari

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episode 2, episode 3. cant stop. wont stop. name on the bank.

this show is crazy. it is a more dramatic, candy corn flavored Zetsubou YYH moe re-animation, but it is enjoyable to a gross extent. i am starting to get more than a little annoyed at the amount of unreadable flashes they are doing in shows like this and Zbou, because it really fucks the entire pacing of the episode when you miss something totally badass and cool like this show tends to have. and i can never, ever, not once, imagine that shows such as these are geared to meet any kind of serious live rating quota, because they know they are going to make all their money on the dvd sales.

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[00:42] <masamune> one thing about bakemonogatari
[00:42] <masamune> these inserted manga dialogue cuts
[00:43] <masamune> are written as if by the hand of an insane japanese man
[00:43] <masamune> insane
[00:43] <masamune> insane
[00:43] <masamune> insane
[00:43] <masamune> they make no modern grammatical japanese sense at all
[00:43] <masamune> which is perhaps what is exactly what makes them strikng
[00:44] <masamune> for they are insanely repugnant in their grotesque use of difficult japanese kanji
[00:44] <masamune> all the while insisting on absurd katakana usages for traditionally hiragana spelled grammar elements
[00:44] <masamune> it makes no sense. no sense
[00:44] <Nutahame> oh well
[00:45] <masamune> but it is still striking
[00:45] <masamune> because even i can read it
[00:45] <Nutahame> it did no sense to me as well but out of a another reason
[00:45] <Morghus> lol
[00:45] <Nutahame> because most of it got never translated by the groups
[00:45] <Morghus> Fantastic group
[00:45] <Morghus> xD
[00:45] <Morghus> So much stupidity in one place
[00:45] <Morghus> (the facebook link)
[00:46] <Nutahame> but just by the solo appearance of flashing words you try to catch with your eye it was an interesting element of the anime
[00:46] <masamune> there is no translation for this
[00:46] <masamune> it has no equal in english
[00:46] <masamune> maybe
[00:46] <Nutahame> probably
[00:46] <Nutahame> oh
[00:46] <masamune> if in forty years from now they still use brb and lol
[00:46] <Nutahame> or well most likely
[00:47] <masamune> instead of "i have to go away from the computer for a minute" and "i think that's funny"
[00:47] <Nutahame> well there was once a flash of a lot of kanji for red
[00:47] <masamune> then they could have this kind of joke for the english
[00:47] <masamune> lol
[00:47] <masamune> and you know what many of those frames read?
[00:47] <Nutahame> nope
[00:47] <masamune> they read "black frame" "red frame"
[00:47] <masamune> as in
[00:47] <Nutahame> thats the funny or disturbing thing
[00:47] <Morghus> In 10 years we'll have "lol brb gtfohfbi" still
[00:47] <Morghus>
[00:47] <masamune> insert a red frame here
[00:48] <masamune> it is a strinklingly ingenious way of being lazy
[00:48] <masamune> because they cut out what would necessitate graphic animation/writing
[00:48] <masamune> with a clever literary device
[00:48] <masamune> and in the case of the anime, a clever cinematographical device
[00:49] <masamune> but the effect is stunning
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[00:49] <masamune> particularly if they have any kind of translation for the flashes
[00:49] <masamune> hey wait
[00:49] <masamune> wait morghus
[00:49] <masamune> are you saying that they dont always translate the flashes in bakemonogatari?
[00:49] <masamune> i am watching the koharubi fansubs
[00:50] <masamune> but are you speaking about, perhaps, gg ?
[00:50] <!Yukimura-San> gg did indeed translate them from what i remember
[00:51] <masamune> because this one note in episode 4 is very telling
[00:51] <masamune> about the fact that although the male protag was restored to his state as 'human'
[00:51] <masamune> if he happened to drink blood
[00:52] <masamune> he would have better eyesight
[00:52] <masamune> and other things
[00:52] <masamune> and holy mother of god
[00:52] <Nutahame> first notice: I said it and not Morghus
[00:53] <masamune> i look at the text that they translated and i want to vomit
[00:53] <masamune> because it doesnt seem to make any sense to me
[00:53] <Nutahame> second notice: as much as I remember the subs I watched didn't translate everything
[00:53] <masamune> the abundance of improper katakan usages is disgusting
[00:54] <masamune> do they reference the fact that the male lead can have immortal abilities beyond episode 4?
[00:54] <nutmeglover> hey im having a chat with my friend since we're supposed to backpack around europe in 2012
[00:54] <nutmeglover> but it looks like im going to japan
[00:54] <nutmeglover> japan 2012, europe 2013!
[00:55] <masamune> go for it
[00:55] <!Yukimura-San> yes masa
[00:55] <!Yukimura-San> sort of
[00:55] <!Yukimura-San> in the arc after the one you're watching it comes up
[00:55] <masamune> yuki. cuz it is in these notes the koharubi group translates
[00:55] <masamune> and one of my rules about annoying flash using animes is
[00:55] <masamune> i will watch it once fluidly
[00:56] <masamune> and then stop and re-watch it to catch all the small inclusions
[00:56] <masamune> but no anime
[00:56] <masamune> has full out put this kind of mother fucking earth moving revelations soully in their illegible quick flashes
[00:56] <!Yukimura-San> welcome to BMG
[00:56] <masamune> what?
[00:57] <masamune> oh i see what you did there
[00:57] <!Yukimura-San> that's shorthand for it
[00:57] <masamune> it should be just called Monster Stories
[00:57] <masamune> much faster and accesible
[00:57] <masamune> and still fitting
[00:58] <!Yukimura-San> but that probably wouldn't be as 'cool'
[00:58] <masamune> no
[00:58] <masamune> it would be cooler in japan
[00:58] <masamune> but less so with the narutards
[00:58] <masamune> hence the fact that almost nobody ever saw, much less comments on, the epic anime/manga that was "MONSTER"
[00:59] <!Yukimura-San> hey it's on Sci-Fi now
[00:59] <!Yukimura-San> so i'm finally watching it
[00:59] <!Yukimura-San> oh exceue me... SyFy
[01:00] <masamune> what is?
[01:00] <!Yukimura-San> Monster
[01:00] <masamune> i do love the usage of katakan in improper visual places
[01:00] <masamune> like the TOMARE
[01:00] <masamune> on the streets
[01:00] <masamune> that serves as a really nice visual kafuck
[01:00] <masamune> in... english
[01:00] <masamune> i can only think of that show in english
[01:00] <masamune> especially Runge
[01:01] <Nutahame> oh Monster
[01:01] <Nutahame> I started watching it but ended in some place
[01:01] <Nutahame> dunno where
[01:01] <Nutahame> is it about that Nazis and kids and stuff?
[01:01] <Nutahame> or was that another show oO
[01:01] <masamune> and a brain surgeon
[01:01] <Nutahame> ah
[01:01] <Nutahame> ok
[01:01] <masamune> it's like a more modern day frankenstein
[01:01] <Nutahame> yeah then I watched it
[01:01] <masamune> with mafia instead of scienc
[01:02] <Nutahame> yeah exactly dunno where I stopped watchin
[01:02] <Nutahame> but I liked it though...
[01:02] <Nutahame> probably stopped watching cuz of time lack
[01:02] <masamune> i do love this bakemonogatari show though
[01:02] <masamune> i think i might evn have to buy it
[01:02] <Nutahame> yup it's fun
[01:02] <masamune> there is just a lot to it
[01:02] <Nutahame> but I didn't finish it yet
[01:02] <masamune> like, ever couple frames
[01:03] <masamune> like
[01:03] <masamune> that girl has no shadow
[01:04] <masamune> for the whole ten second slow conversation scene behind it
[01:04] <masamune> she is sticking close to Araragi and so it, understandably, looks like one slightly big shadow sticing out in the pre twilight light
[01:05] <masamune> but then they argue, and in about a fifth of a second of viewing time, they pause it and show her without a shadow at all while she seperates from him
[01:05] <Nutahame> ok my lecture is staring in half n hour so I go out drink a coffee, smoke and chill until that
[01:05] <Nutahame> see ya
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[01:06] <masamune> there it is again, 40 seconds later
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[01:11] <masamune> kahaha
[01:11] <masamune> the signage on that crosswalk signal is too funny
[01:12] <masamune> yet again she does have her shadow for a few scenes
[01:12] <masamune> but they cross in to the freaky part of town and she has to stick close to him again while they do the stupid word play joke
[01:12] <masamune> and she loses her shadow again
[01:14] <!Yukimura-San> what is the point of a fluctuating shadow
[01:15] <!Yukimura-San> wait which girl are you talking about?
[01:43] <masamune> she doesnt have a shadow and senjougahara cant see her????
[01:43] <masamune> dahgaighaingag
[01:43] <masamune> yuki, i was talking about hachikuji-chan, aka loli girl episodes 3-5
[01:43] <masamune> or more
[01:44] <!Yukimura-San> ah
[01:45] <!Yukimura-San> hrm I didn't notice she didn't have a shadow
[01:45] <!Yukimura-San> then again I wasn't looking very hard
[01:46] <masamune> cahgghds
[01:46] <masamune> and now
[01:46] <!Yukimura-San> obfuscation like that arc tends to just irrittate me
[01:46] <masamune> theyhave these long flashes of multi colored text in episode 05
[01:46] <masamune> and i can read some, but not all
[01:46] <masamune> and alot arent being translated
[01:46] <masamune> ca fuck
[01:46] <!Yukimura-San>
[01:47] <masamune> this is how japan will defeat the fansubbers
[01:47] <masamune> massive cult followings swallowing oppresively priced dvd sales
[01:47] <!Yukimura-San> get the gg svid reencodes!
[01:47] <!Yukimura-San> fansubbing will prevail
[01:47] <masamune> these are koharubi releases i am watching
[01:47] <masamune> and it is okay for these episodes
[01:47] <masamune> i will switch to the gg releases later
[01:47] <masamune> as i have to
[01:48] <masamune> kaharubi has not released any of the later episodes
[01:48] <!Yukimura-San> do they at least sub those little monologes at the beggining of the eps?
[01:48] <!Yukimura-San> that are all text
[01:48] <masamune> they do that and more
[01:48] <!Yukimura-San> oh well good
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[01:48] <masamune> they even do the "red frame" "black frame"
[01:48] <!Yukimura-San> lol
[01:48] <masamune> did gg do those?
[01:48] <!Yukimura-San> i think so
[01:48] <masamune> some are insanely short
[01:49] <!Yukimura-San> though i only remember seeing 'red frame' but not actual text
[01:49] <masamune> like the ones that read simply the authors name
[01:49] <!Yukimura-San> so maybe they didn't
[01:49] <masamune> well
[01:49] <masamune> there have been many moments in the kobarubi subs
[01:49] <masamune> where text has appeared on screen solely in english
[01:49] <masamune> and i cannot belive that it would ever be initially presented as such
[01:49] <masamune> but other times, yeah, its just left in japanese

ediot

if i had a babe write now i would name it bakemonogatari.f o r real