Hi everyone, I don't think Danzou is Madara. I guess it is Madara's brother. We can see on http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/04/ the offering of the brothers' eyes. But can we be sure he was offering both of his eyes. It was Tobi telling the story. And he was problably lying to Sasuke. So Madara's brother could still be alive and ruling as Danzou/Hokage now. I supose the brothers will meet eachother on the Kage's meeting and the guessing ends.
On the very next page Madara's brother is shown lying dead in a coffin.Originally Posted by Shenshort
Doesn't seem like he'd have reason to lie about that, especially if he doesn't even know his brother could have survived.
Though thinking about it now, I do seriously doubt that Madara's brother gave up his eyes willingly. THAT is something he would lie about.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Well I'm sure Madara was stronger than him, so it wouldn't be a problem for him to give take his eyes. Although Kishi did draw him smiling after his eyes were taken so maybe he did give them. And if he loved his fellow Uchiha, then I'm sure his dedication would show through.
Danzou has a hurt arm and a Sharingan... So does Madara. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Except Madara's arm was fine after the Amaterasu attack, and Danzo's right arm has always been damaged since his first appearance, way before the chapter you posted.
That's the way it seemed, at least.
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<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Thanks again for the explanation Abdula. I'm probably like 80% on Madara now. I get how he wanted revenge, but why he would kill innocent people in the incident doesn't make complete sense to me. He went from trying to protect the village to murdering even the women and children of that village. It kind of reminds me of the old days when after defeating the enemy, they would kill the wives and children, too. So I understand how he wanted revenge, but was it even the same people that he was taking his revenge on? How much time past between the time they betrayed him and the time he got his revenge?
Wait a minute... isn't Danzou from the same generation as the 3rd and the two advisors. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that they've known him since they were children? Just throwing that out there.
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A couple of things about this in chapter 456.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/456/01/
On the first page here, when Danzou is performing a jutsu, there is a four-frame focus on his hand seals in the middle of the page. That to me is significant. First, he appears to have some kind of metal contraption bolted to his arm, possibly a prosthetic. Maybe he is a cyborg?
Secondly, if I'm correct about this, the fact that he used hand seals at all is significant, because wasn't it noted earlier that Tobi/Madara used no hand seals when performing jutsus?
Just something to think about.
Good catch. That's a very interesting bolt.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/280/19/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/281/15/
It almost looks like there is one on his right wrist in the second page, when he holds Deidara's arm. (Admittedly, that bold is not so clear)
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Tobi is wearing scaled plate armor in those pics, thats what the bolts showing there are from.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/281/16/
you can see it a little more clearly from the front angle shots on that page. In the middle frame you can see the shoulder armor hanging down over his arms, and in the bottom left frame you can see the hip armor flailed out to the sides when he is on the ground.
Oh, and the one you said looks like a bolt in his wrist is actually Deidara's fingernail :P
Yeah, I think you're right.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Danzou would have a hard time convincing everyone to kill the Uchiha clan, but not him if he really was Madara.
I am going to guess and say that Danzou was behind the Nine-Tails attack 16 years ago though. Madara claims that it wasn't him and it does seem like something he would do to try to convince everyone of how dangerous the Uchiha were.
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Minato already outted Madara as the culprit.
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Well, not necessarily. Unfortunately, he only said "the one in the mask."
I think that his brother giving up his eyes for the greater good is possible. Look at Kimimaro, he was willing to give up his whole body and life for someone that wasnt even related to him.
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
heres another theory. As we know, kakashi isnt a blood uchiha, and his sharingan is in his LEFT eye, while danzou/madara has the right eye. kakashi seems to know his way around a lot, as hes been in the anbu, he was taught by the 4th etc etc. another key point in this theory is kakashi, in the last manga, seemed like he knew that danzou didnt trust sai and almost expected the people following them. almost like he has had a past with danzou and knew what to expect? betrayal type?
That actually isn't a bad theory. Because if Kakashi knew what was happening (if anything did in fact happen) then I'm sure he would Konohas version of the 'good guy' and police Danzou's actions as much as he can in order to stop him from doing something against the village to begin with.
That's not so much a theory as it is stating random, known facts. I mean, basically no one in Konoha trusts Danzo right now, and it's been stating many times by other characters that he's manipulative and a war-monger. He's been around since at least the 3rd Hokage's reign, so everyone is familiar with him (except we, the audience, who were only recently introduced to him). I don't really understand what the point you're trying to make is.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
That's actually what I've wanted to say for a while on this subject. Everyone thinks that he cares so much for Konoha and that he wants the best for it. As hokage he won't be good for it. He used akatsuki for his own plans against the village, beautifully I might add, but it wasn't in konohas best interests. They injured Tsunade and opened up the spot for him to step in and take her spot. He's not good news for the village. And besides sending him away so that Pain would tear the village a new one looking for him, we still don't know why he kept Naruto out of the village with the killing of the messenger frog with the goggles. Of course it was part of his grand plan, but why? We still don't know. Can't be good though.
Edit:
Hopefully Kakashi and the others will see through this at the meeting and when the voting happens just out vote against him. By the way am I the only one who is surprised that Danzo can make hand seals with over 10-15+ lbs of metal and screws in his arm? I think that's kind of bs
Last edited by The Chancellor; Fri, 07-17-2009 at 06:08 PM.
i bet in "the ninja world" all the old men are actually really fit and can do most of the things that they could years before, maybe not as fast, but hey u saw the 4th throwin out hand signs and doin crazy stuff, plus if u add in the sharingan, danzo can do about anything haha
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