Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster
When he defeated the gillian he was in normal state, it was long before getting shikai.

Gillians ARE nothing at this point let`s review the hollow strength tree again shall we?

Hollow > Gillian > Adjuchas > Vasto Lorde

The last 2 or 3 can become arrancar by the hogyowhatever and increase strenght, Ichigo with a mask faced Dordoni (SP?) who is probably an Adjuchas and guess what happened?

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/253/16/

Now the Vaizard who have FAR more control over their mask are fighting the LOWEST level Menos and i`m suposed to be surprised? let`s face it, this episode was filler.

As for the captains being surprised this show that they are idiots or futher proves my "filler" theory further, ice kid alone defeated several enemies that are higher rating than a mere Gillian.
Ichigo's sword WAS already in Shikai. He just didn't know its name.

And my points isn't to be surprised that the Vaizards can kill them. When the hell did I say that?

My point was that everybody is saying: "So? Ichigo can kill a Gillian too"

Yes. Ichigo killed one. He almot got killed too.

The Vaizards kill them as if they are ants.

There is NO way to be surprised at this. But don't say its nothing because Ichigo could do so too. He almost GOT KILLED. There is no comparasion.