Bleach Chapter 366

[RyougaZell]

When he defeated the gillian he was in normal state, it was long before getting shikai.

Gillians ARE nothing at this point let`s review the hollow strength tree again shall we?

Hollow > Gillian > Adjuchas > Vasto Lorde

The last 2 or 3 can become arrancar by the hogyowhatever and increase strenght, Ichigo with a mask faced Dordoni (SP?) who is probably an Adjuchas and guess what happened?

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/253/16/

Now the Vaizard who have FAR more control over their mask are fighting the LOWEST level Menos and i`m suposed to be surprised? let`s face it, this episode was filler.

As for the captains being surprised this show that they are idiots or futher proves my "filler" theory further, ice kid alone defeated several enemies that are higher rating than a mere Gillian.

Ichigo's sword WAS already in Shikai. He just didn't know its name.

And my points isn't to be surprised that the Vaizards can kill them. When the hell did I say that?

My point was that everybody is saying: "So? Ichigo can kill a Gillian too"

Yes. Ichigo killed one. He almot got killed too.

The Vaizards kill them as if they are ants.

There is NO way to be surprised at this. But don't say its nothing because Ichigo could do so too. He almost GOT KILLED. There is no comparasion.

[UChessmaster]

Ichigo's sword WAS already in Shikai. He just didn't know its name.

Ichigo`s sword was not in shikai already >>. Where are you getting that? it`s permanentelly Shikai AFTER he adquired said transformation.

Unreleased sword :http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/1/51/

Shikai: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/67/09/

When he fought the gillian he did NOT had Shikai. As for the Ichigo got almost killed... so? Ichigo was lightyears weaker than what he is now. You didn`t said we should be surprised but you`re saying Vaizard can kill Gillian like ants as if it`s some sort of achievement at this point. I`m sure "recently adquired Shikai" Ichigo can beat Gillians as if they were ants.

Here`s an analogy for you of what i`m seeing right now: Imagine that at the end of DBZ general tao appears and fights Trunks, Trunks defeated him easily and that is suposed to be a proof of how amazingly strong Trunks has become. The readers inmediatelly thinks "uhmmmmmm that`s not that big of a deal" and you answer "But General Tao was a threat to goku back in Dragon Ball! and Trunks defeated him like an Ant!"

There is NO way to be surprised at this. But don't say its nothing because Ichigo could do so too. He almost GOT KILLED. There is no comparasion.

But Ryouga that is exactly what they are at this point of the story, NOTHING. Ice kid defeated Luppi who is undeniably stronger than any Gillian JUST like an ant ages ago.

[RyougaZell]

Ichigo`s sword was not in shikai already >>. Where are you getting that? it`s permanentelly Shikai AFTER he adquired said transformation.

Unreleased sword :http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/1/51/

Shikai: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/67/09/

When he fought the gillian he did NOT had Shikai. As for the Ichigo got almost killed... so? Ichigo was lightyears weaker than what he is now. You didn`t said we should be surprised but you`re saying Vaizard can kill Gillian like ants as if it`s some sort of achievement at this point. I`m sure "recently adquired Shikai" Ichigo can beat Gillians as if they were ants.

Here`s an analogy for you of what i`m seeing right now: Imagine that at the end of DBZ general tao appears and fights Trunks, Trunks defeated him easily and that is suposed to be a proof of how amazingly strong Trunks has become. The readers inmediatelly thinks "uhmmmmmm that`s not that big of a deal" and you answer "But General Tao was a threat to goku back in Dragon Ball! and Trunks defeated him like an Ant!"



But Ryouga that is exactly what they are at this point of the story, NOTHING. Ice kid defeated Luppi who is undeniably stronger than any Gillian JUST like an ant ages ago.

The sword didn't change because he entered Shikai. The sword changed because it was his own power, not combined with the power he took from Rukia.

I don't have the time to seek it, but I remember Yoruichi saying he ALWAYS had Shikai on. Not just after he regained his powers.

Anyway. By your logic Ichigo should have easily defeated Nnoitra. After all, Ichigo beated Zaraki. And Zaraki beated Nnoitra. Therefore.... Ichigo... gets almost killed by Nnoitra.

You say Gillians are nothing. And I agree. But does Kubo? Even his golden boy, Hitsugaya, of who you speak highly of because he defeated Luppi, is afraid of the Gillians.

My point NEVER was to say that the chapter was good.

The bitching began because the people here began to compara Ichigo's fight with a Gillian with this fights. Yes, Ichigo was weaker back then. But he didn't kill one in a second. Heck... he didn't even kill it. Could he kill one now? Most likely. But we've never seen him kill one in ONE FREAKING SECOND. That is my bitching. How can we compare a fight of the main character from when he was weak to this ONE SECOND BATTLE?

Sigh...

[UChessmaster]

The bitching began because the people here began to compara Ichigo's fight with a Gillian with this fights. Yes, Ichigo was weaker back then. But he didn't kill one in a second. Heck... he didn't even kill it. Could he kill one now? Most likely. But we've never seen him kill one in ONE FREAKING SECOND. That is my bitching. How can we compare a fight of the main character from when he was weak to this ONE SECOND BATTLE? Sigh...

He still defeated dordoni in a second though

Oh well, at least we agree the episode was bad, that`s all that matters.