Naruto Chapter 467

[DB_Hunter]

I reckon the Sharingan and Rinnegan both split the power of the original Juubi eye. The Uchiha's got the power of the tomoes hence which resulted in the Sharingan, hence only one cocentric circle whilst the Nagato's clan got the power of all the circles but not the tomoes, so that resulted in the Rinnegan. And maybe Byakugan was the power of just the 'white' of the eye, though I agree the Byakugan has been screwed.

So my theory is that all three different eye techniques are supposed to fuse as well to yield the 'ultimate' eye.

[Archangel]

I reckon the Sharingan and Rinnegan both split the power of the original Juubi eye. The Uchiha's got the power of the tomoes hence which resulted in the Sharingan, hence only one cocentric circle whilst the Nagato's clan got the power of all the circles but not the tomoes, so that resulted in the Rinnegan. And maybe Byakugan was the power of just the 'white' of the eye, though I agree the Byakugan has been screwed.

So my theory is that all three different eye techniques are supposed to fuse as well to yield the 'ultimate' eye.

Only that, according to legend, the Sharingan came from the Rinnegan remember?

[DB_Hunter]

Yeah according to legend it also came from the Byakugan, so really the only way it can technically come from both (though I don't rememebr it coming from the Rinnegan) is if they all came from the same source, and the person relaying the 'Sharingan' story didn't understand the history properly.

[Naruto_RNG]

I reckon the Sharingan and Rinnegan both split the power of the original Juubi eye. The Uchiha's got the power of the tomoes hence which resulted in the Sharingan, hence only one cocentric circle whilst the Nagato's clan got the power of all the circles but not the tomoes, so that resulted in the Rinnegan. And maybe Byakugan was the power of just the 'white' of the eye, though I agree the Byakugan has been screwed.

So my theory is that all three different eye techniques are supposed to fuse as well to yield the 'ultimate' eye.

No dis to your theory but if uchihas got the power of tomos then I believe instead of one set of tomos there should be 3 just like how rinnegan has more then one circular line, and they should not be connected at all since you're referring to that circular line the tomos are on as rinnegan correct? I think kishi totally forgot about byakugan and where it fits in all this messed up uchiha story lol

[DB_Hunter]

Well I'm saying the each circular line has a power, and if the Sharingan had 3 circular lines the Rinnegan would be redundant. So the Sharingan got one line to hold the 3 tomoe's, and the Rinnegan got no tomoe's but all 3 lines. Naturally you put them together/fuse them you got something greater than what each can do, i.e 3 lines plus 9 tomoes.

[Archangel]

Well I'm saying the each circular line has a power, and if the Sharingan had 3 circular lines the Rinnegan would be redundant. So the Sharingan got one line to hold the 3 tomoe's, and the Rinnegan got no tomoe's but all 3 lines. Naturally you put them together/fuse them you got something greater than what each can do, i.e 3 lines plus 9 tomoes.

What came first? The chicken or the egg?

It's true what you say about the shape of the 10 tailed's eye, but wouldn't the sage already have the rinnegan when he captured it? And why would he only have the rinnegan if he had absorbed the beast? Shouldn't he have the same eye as it had should that be the case?

[XanBcoo]

What came first? The chicken or the egg?

It's true what you say about the shape of the 10 tailed's eye, but wouldn't the sage already have the rinnegan when he captured it? And why would he only have the rinnegan if he had absorbed the beast? Shouldn't he have the same eye as it had should that be the case?

All I can do with this chapter is ask these kinds of questions.

[Naruto_RNG]

Well I'm saying the each circular line has a power, and if the Sharingan had 3 circular lines the Rinnegan would be redundant. So the Sharingan got one line to hold the 3 tomoe's, and the Rinnegan got no tomoe's but all 3 lines. Naturally you put them together/fuse them you got something greater than what each can do, i.e 3 lines plus 9 tomoes.

Need clarification:

If you think that ten-tails beast eye is a combination of sharingan and rinnegan then I believe logically if u divide it up into two, you get 9 tomos and 3 circular lines correct?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/467/17/
In that case uchihas got the 3 tomos as you have said and RS gets the circular lines (which I do not understand why he does not get both but thats not the issue here). Now as you have said above each line has a power, ok, uchihas can open up 3 tomos, wut about the other 6? surely byakugan and rinnegan cant have anything to do with it.

This theory also brings me to another question, rinnegan has more then 3 circular lines so where did the extras came from?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/439/01/

[Tenbatsu]

Need clarification:

If you think that ten-tails beast eye is a combination of sharingan and rinnegan then I believe logically if u divide it up into two, you get 9 tomos and 3 circular lines correct?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/467/17/
In that case uchihas got the 3 tomos as you have said and RS gets the circular lines (which I do not understand why he does not get both but thats not the issue here). Now as you have said above each line has a power, ok, uchihas can open up 3 tomos, wut about the other 6? surely byakugan and rinnegan cant have anything to do with it.

This theory also brings me to another question, rinnegan has more then 3 circular lines so where did the extras came from?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/439/01/

Meh, That's the moon haxx. The actuall eye on the jubi had 4 lines. In this picture of the sage he has 2 lines in one eye and 3 in the other. It might be that the ultimate sharingan is when you have 9 tomos. Since you can awaken MS alone, that's 3 tomos. Then you take another MS to get EMS which makes it look like Madara has 6 tomos in the lower left corner of this page. You might not be able to do that again but have to mix it with another EMS and that's what he's wating for with Sasuke so he can steal his eyes and get 9 tomos. Sent him into battle with the kages to show him how weak he is so he'd finally accept that he needs EMS.

[Naruto_RNG]

Meh, That's the moon haxx. The actuall eye on the jubi had 4 lines. In this picture of the sage he has 2 lines in one eye and 3 in the other. It might be that the ultimate sharingan is when you have 9 tomos. Since you can awaken MS alone, that's 3 tomos. Then you take another MS to get EMS which makes it look like Madara has 6 tomos in the lower left corner of this page. You might not be able to do that again but have to mix it with another EMS and that's what he's wating for with Sasuke so he can steal his eyes and get 9 tomos. Sent him into battle with the kages to show him how weak he is so he'd finally accept that he needs EMS.

I truly believe kishi just messed up this entire arc. Everything is just thrown at you without much cohesion.I hope there is no more ultimate hax eye/s(sharingan), cause its getting tiresome.

[DB_Hunter]

It just occured to me, why didn't Madara and his brother simply swap eyes? Surely he didn't grow an extra pair of eye sockets, so he would have had to get rid of his own eyes. Since both pairs of eyes were MS, hence both being affected by the 'darkness', a simple swap should have worked. Or am I missing something obvious?