Naruto Chapter 522

[Assertn]

Last time I recall was when sasuke's team was fighting at the kage meeting place. It's been a while, but it appears the teammates never made it out, so my guess is that the sword was still there as well. Also, waterboy said he's looking for his katana, so I guess he thinks zabuza's sword is still there?

So apparently "blast" and "scorch" are elements now. I suppose if "ice" is an element, then it suffices to say that the fusion of two elements is still considered an element. So would that mean that blast is fire+earth and scorch is fire+wind...?

[Death BOO Z]

So apparently "blast" and "scorch" are elements now. I suppose if "ice" is an element, then it suffices to say that the fusion of two elements is still considered an element. So would that mean that blast is fire+earth and scorch is fire+wind...?

someone should make a count of the elements...

5!/(3!*2!) is the max number, right? if you've got 5 elements and combine two of them
120/(6*2)=10
so far:
wood, ice, blast, scorch...
what else did we have?

the worst part, is that it never mattered (to anyone other than Kishi), the first thing Kakashi said about the 'five elements' was that there are more ninja techniques that don't follow the rules of elements (Chouji and Shikamaru were his examples), so I never understood why he insisted on following that 'rule' for elemental combination.

as for the blast punch being over powered - it's just how the rasengan should work. a one hit kill punch, perfect for slugging it out. it's just that Naruto never gets to show off his moves in a fight where he has the advantage.

[Assertn]

someone should make a count of the elements...

5!/(3!*2!) is the max number, right? if you've got 5 elements and combine two of them
120/(6*2)=10
so far:
wood, ice, blast, scorch...
what else did we have?

Yep, 10 total. Only 4 have been identified so far. Although I guess you could probably include the tsuchikage's dust bloodline... which would be... earth + wind?

Oh yeah, and the 3rd kazekage's black sand bloodline, which could be earth + lightning.

as for the blast punch being over powered - it's just how the rasengan should work. a one hit kill punch, perfect for slugging it out. it's just that Naruto never gets to show off his moves in a fight where he has the advantage.

The rasengan as everyone else has been using it was an incomplete jutsu; the rasenshuriken beng the complete form. It really was meant to be an aoe projectile like what the demons use.

[UChessmaster]

Didn`t the tsuchikage had TWO limits? i think she had lava too.

[Tofu #2]

Didn`t the tsuchikage had TWO limits? i think she had lava too.

that would be the mizuikage? lava and "boil"

[Assertn]

that would be the mizuikage? lava and "boil"

Yeah.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Boil_Release
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Lava_Release

So apparently fire + water = boil, and fire + earth = lava.
I kinda figured lava would be a more suitable fusion element, but that doesn't leave much left for "blast." fire + lightning, perhaps?

[DB_Hunter]

Yeah.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Boil_Release
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Lava_Release

So apparently fire + water = boil, and fire + earth = lava.
I kinda figured lava would be a more suitable fusion element, but that doesn't leave much left for "blast." fire + lightning, perhaps?

Blast would be wind and lightning wouldn't it?

[Sam98034]

someone should make a count of the elements...

5!/(3!*2!) is the max number, right? if you've got 5 elements and combine two of them
120/(6*2)=10
so far:
wood, ice, blast, scorch...
what else did we have?

I think I recall something about Yin & Yang. And that might be a combination of two elements already.

[poopdeville]

someone should make a count of the elements...

5!/(3!*2!) is the max number, right? if you've got 5 elements and combine two of them
120/(6*2)=10
so far:
wood, ice, blast, scorch...
what else did we have?

I don't know that 5-choose-2 is the max number. I don't see why somebody can't mix three elements. So that's (5-choose-2) + (5-choose-3) possible combinations, at least. 20 mixed elements. 25 if mixing 4 elements is possible. 26 if mixing 5 elements is possible. Presumably, Pein is evidence that mixing 5 elements is possible.

Actually, if we include using 0 elements (like Rock Lee) and one element, we see that there are

Sum_{i=0 to i=5} (n-choose-i) = 2^5 combinations. One of my favorite combinatorial identities, joining combinations of things taken i at a time with the power set operator.

[UChessmaster]

I don't see why somebody can't mix three elements.

Because they only have 2 hands?