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    Most of the arguments against the cops seem to be conflating the two issues at hand: the law itself, and how the officers behaved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    But...it is imperative that once police officers, or federal agents, etc., declare that they will arrest you, you must comply with them in a peaceful manner. Do as they order explicitly. That way no one gets hurt, and police will (generally) treat someone in a less forceful manner if they are acting in a civilized and respectable manner. Throwing a fit and making a scene on the spot is not the proper way to conduct that kind of protest.

    The protesters were acting like children instead of adults.
    Quote Originally Posted by dragonrage
    They didn't want to protest, they wanted to show they can do whatever they wanted. I have seen protests, even been a part of a few. But this was just a blatant display of idiotic behavior. Did the police use excessive force, it was harsh but mandated because of resistance to being arrested.
    Really want to pick apart everything that's been posted since I last read the thread, but this pretty much sums up my argument and the rest of you seem to be getting caught up in the minutia.

    And no, the guy in the white shirt wasn't just standing their with his hands up, he was using some silly technique to resist arrest by stiffening himself/acting like dead weight and making it harder for the cops to cuff him.

    About what Ryll said of obeying police I must objetc. Its true that it is the best for you from the physical perspective, cause if they want to arrest you they will end doing it dead or alive. But if you are being harrassed, falselly accused or demeaningly treated I wouldnt obey so eagerly, and more if there is a camera there. I wouldnt kneel before them just cause they say so, even knowing that would mean a whole world of pain for me, wich is usually the response of every order force in the world.
    I don't know what things are like in your country, but when you are arrested in the US you are entitled to (or provided) a lawyer. Those of us fortunate enough to have had a good education also know that you should never talk to the police because they are assholes and will try and get you to self-incriminate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire View Post
    It's like, allowing atrocious things like this to happen is a very subtle nuance of oppression, but it's still there. It's because usually, people sort of see this "wrongness" as a fiction, a blip of logic and fact, ignoring it, and going on with their day. They see that the act of arrest for dancing is wrong, but they permit it because of some arbitrary thing like a designated "rule," because its easier than feeling uncomfortable about it. Then, they even blame the victim, regardless of if the victim was in the right. But... this only legitimizes the power that forces like this have over us.
    This is a valid point that I totally agree with but the people in that video were literal retards. I'm sorry.
    Last edited by XanBcoo; Wed, 06-01-2011 at 09:08 PM.

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