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    My biggest question here was how Iri felt about all this. She was disturbed, certainly, and their positioning symbolised their relative positions very well:

    Saber at one end, Kiritsugu at the other, Irisviel in the middle (sort of, she's closer to Kiritsugu), being able to converse with both of them.

    I think in the end, she can't fully agree with how Kiritsugu does things, but trusts his inner self and knows that he's only doing terrible acts for the sake of a better cause that will be worth it.

    I don't get the priest though. He's got an entire supply of command spells. It leaves the door wide open to corruption.

    Archibald redeemed himself a fair bit this episode. While he's a dumbass and all.. I was surprised he (still) loved Sola-Ui that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Archibald redeemed himself a fair bit this episode. While he's a dumbass and all.. I was surprised he (still) loved Sola-Ui that much.
    I don't think that was ever in question, if anything it was the reason why he gave Lancer such a hard time.

    I just honestly love the way Kiritsugu handles himself in this war. He's not about to let his servant get in the way of what could be an easy victory and he's always one step ahead. Miles away of all the bulshit Shirou put us through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    My biggest question here was how Iri felt about all this. She was disturbed, certainly, and their positioning symbolised their relative positions very well:

    Saber at one end, Kiritsugu at the other, Irisviel in the middle (sort of, she's closer to Kiritsugu), being able to converse with both of them.

    I think in the end, she can't fully agree with how Kiritsugu does things, but trusts his inner self and knows that he's only doing terrible acts for the sake of a better cause that will be worth it.
    I agree with shinta, any change in her behavior became clear minutes later that she was just barely holding it together hiding her health issues. She doesn't want Kiritsugu to find out not only because she doesn't want him to worry, but also because she doesn't want him to lose his composure in public.

    I'm convinced that while she is more sympathetic to Saber's disdain for Kiritsugu's methods, she's not in any way opposed to how he is doing things. The Einzberns are not good-hearted magi. They harbor no illusions about how the wars are fought, since they are one of the original families. Even her daughter, Ilya, is one of the most pragmatic and cruel magus in FSN, and look how happy and innocent she had been raised by her parents. She was never opposed to using less straightforward means, in addition to just having Berserker smash everything.

    Iri does not share the pure-hearted naiveté hidden by bluster that Rin does, the knightly stupidity that Shirou does, or the righteousness that Archibald did and even Kariya seems to have in his own level of sacrifice. She's kind, but incredibly stern when she needs to be. In episode 8, she was asking that Maiya shoot Kirei in the back while she held him in place, before they found out how much of a monster he was first hand.

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