Quote Originally Posted by Lucifus View Post
What?

Please, please. Expand. I feel that whatever is going on here is due to miscommunication.
He's saying that I'm arguing on one hand that the child and parents are one (thus the parents are responsible for the child), and on the other hand they are separate since the child is victim and the parents are not. I'm saying it's two stages. The child and parent are one until the parents show complete and utter disregard for the child and let it come to harm, as which point the they are separated because one is the victim and the other is party to the offender.