There's no evidence that the beating had anything to do with the death. The kid could have tried to stay clean but got sucked into the shit and died anyway. Or he could have reacted badly to the beating and gotten more into the gangsta lifestyle, leading to his death.
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<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Yeah, this is a lone example case and can't statistically prove anything one way or another. If what his mom was telling was even close to the truth, it does suggest he at least tried, a little, to stay out of it, but in the end didn't possess the willpower or a strong enough external stimulus to override his own lack of willpower. But then again, he might also have been simply too stupid and naive; maybe he went there to tell the gang he wants out - and was let out, in the most permanent fashion.
Whatever the circumstances, it is a very sad situation.
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In the uncle's defense, at least he paid enough attention to the kid to check his facebook page, see he was heading down a bad path, then tried to intervene. Too many parents don't take any interest in what their kids are doing, good or bad.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Ok, sure? But was it effective? Absolutely not.
I like what this commenter said:
the kid deserved to get his ass beat no question, but posting that shit online and humiliating a teenager isnt gonna accomplish anything but making him worse, imagine the harassment he probably got at school after that tape leaked, probably made him feel he had to prove he was tough to all the kids who were fuckin with him, inadvertantly that video could have made him worse and helped lead to his death
We're not discussing whether or not the uncle cared. That's not what this thread is about. The fact that he decided to deal with it in a way that very likely exacerbated the situation supports the idea that corporal punishment is probably not the way to go about fixing things.
Huge illogical assumption incoming!
And no, we can't assume much from the video, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this beating wasn't a one-time occurrence. Like in many low socio-economic African American families , physical punishment was probably the norm here, and barring mental illness like psychopathy, the entire "might makes right" method is largely a learned behavior. It's not outlandish to say it's likely that the video is an accurate sample of the kid's disciplinary upbringing.
And even if it's not, the video did nothing but humiliate the kid. "Tough love" indeed.
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<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Thanks for the video Assert'n. I never realised that was what Americans meant by spanking. (Hand to butt, used fairly frequently when you don't want something done.)
Mine in contrast, seemed less frequent (but maybe those were just condensed clips), but much more intimidating and painful. In my cases, elastic materials (the handle of a duster) were used. The point would be to induce pain and then act as a deterrent for repeating the "incriminating" behaviour.
I'm not sure how releated my experiences are though, since I was much older than the children in the video.
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