2012 United States Presidential Election

[Animeniax]

The result isn't even remotely surprising. In the last year or so, the GOP have somehow systematically piss off almost every group of voters who aren't hardcore conservative or rich white men. I'm not sure they understand that you don't win an election that is based off popularity votes by appealing to less people.

Actually it's surprising how well Romney did considering the GOP's platform and his shadiness as a candidate. We should be shocked and reviled that almost 50% of the popular vote went to Romney, considering how many groups his platform alienates. In the end, Obama won on electoral votes, and not really on the popular vote.

GOP will have to sell itself hard to either the gay/feminist vote or the hispanic vote. Their odds are probably best with the hispanic vote, since they're very religious and the GOP may sway them with a promise for jobs. It'll definitely have to cut out the evangelical bullshit if it wants to survive beyond the next election.

To appeal to the Hispanic vote, the GOP will have to take a moderate position on illegal immigration, amnesty, and citizenship... all of which are opposed by a majority of conservatives and white males. With the way the country continues to change demographically, the GOP will have to change to a shadow of its former self to contend on a national level in the future. They can win local/state elections based on conservative voting blocks, but nationally they represent too little of the populace and its views.

[Dark Dragon]

Actually it's surprising how well Romney did considering the GOP's platform and his shadiness as a candidate. We should be shocked and reviled that almost 50% of the popular vote went to Romney, considering how many groups his platform alienates. In the end, Obama won on electoral votes, and not really on the popular vote.

America was and still is to a large extent a nation built from puritans, so it's not really surprising to see that Romney won most of the states that Republican are expected to win. There are a lot of people who simply vote base on party line and out of habit. For example, it's almost pointless for Dem to vote for national elections Texas because of the imbalance in party power. The same could be said for California and New york where Democrats are expected to win regardless.

The scary thing is that as bad as people make Romney out to be, he's still fairly moderate by the GOP standards.

[Dark Dragon]

I think some states vote along racial lines as much as anything else.

It's hard to say what Romney's stances are on issues because he's changed so many of them from the time he was a governor to the Republican primary to now. I was almost looking forward to him winning the presidency because he does seem like a moderate and he might be able to work with Congress to get things passed. Unfortunately Obama will have another 4 years of zero compromise from the Republicans in the House.

Obama actually didn't do that bad in term of keeping promises for his first term. There is no doubt that the GOP put up a lot of resistance toward Obama, but he isn't also without blame here. Obama didn't do much to compromise with the GOP, regardless of what he said.

To be honest, we're better off going back to News channel actually just broadcasting news. All of these political "opinions" only serve to embarrass both parties.

[Animeniax]

Obama actually didn't do that bad in term of keeping promises for his first term. There is no doubt that the GOP put up a lot of resistance toward Obama, but he isn't also without blame here. Obama didn't do much to compromise with the GOP, regardless of what he said.

Obama did great his first two years, then the tea party and conservatives took over the House. From what I read, Obama was criticized for caving too quickly to Republican demands or resistance to compromise on things like the budget.

To be honest, we're better off going back to News channel actually just broadcasting news. All of these political "opinions" only serve to embarrass both parties.

I agree, but with Fox influencing their local Fox affiliate stations and MSNBC influencing their local NBC stations, we have to rely on CNN (which has a liberal bias) and their ridiculous reporting for somewhat impartial news.

[Dark Dragon]

Obama did great his first two years, then the tea party and conservatives took over the House. From what I read, Obama was criticized for caving too quickly to Republican demands or resistance to compromise on things like the budget.

I should clarify

What i meant was that Obama failed to create support for himself within the GOP. He was more effective at campaigning than actual politic. He didn't socialize or support any republican and mostly kept to his own party, which created problems when it come time for compromises. Most of those issues were resolved by either A. forcefully pushed through (Obamacare is one particular big one) or B. Obama would cave to GOP demand completely because of lack of support. There was little actual compromise going on.