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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post

    As for the reversed gender ratio: I dont think thats the only difference to your example. These girls arent just having fun and flirting a bit, they really WANT Kirito. Thatīs what makes it awkward.

    "I wish she'd touch my tail too... "

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    8 years is a huge age gap?
    Depends on the ages involved.

    48 and 40 isn't a big deal. 20 and 12 is cause for concern.

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    Aren't those girls still high school students? They are merely having fun at the moment. Things will change once they graduate and move forward in life. I'd imagine Kirito & Asuna would get married pretty soon after graduation. Dunno about Klein, since he doesn't have any particular forced reason to move forward, but on the other hand when all the others do, he's forced to seek new company.

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    @Kraco - Aren't Kirito and Asuna high school students as well? Even if they do get married, it doesn't mean that they will stay together forever. Kuroyukihime has divorced parents, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Kuroyukihime has divorced parents, after all.
    You're ruining my fantasy here.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    @Kraco - Aren't Kirito and Asuna high school students as well? Even if they do get married, it doesn't mean that they will stay together forever. Kuroyukihime has divorced parents, after all.
    I don't know about Kuroyukihime's parents, but Kirito and Asuna have survived battles of life and death together. I'd say with a background like that they are more likely to stay together than average modern Johns and Janes who only care about their personal comfort.

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    Some couples can live through hard times together but not the good times. I'd like to think they'd stay together though, especially since they've already been virtually married and have a kid. You can say the online version's been a "good time" too, since they never had to toilet train Yui.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    Episode 17 - Horrible




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    Why exactly did Kirito so dramatically throw the sword away and then moments later accept it all gleefully from Sinon? I can't help but think something was vastly different between the VN and this anime adaption, and the director couldn't make it work.

    Too bad for Klein her lady turned into a bearded Norse god. But good for him he got a valkyrie's phone number. He can call her when he's about to die in battle the next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Why exactly did Kirito so dramatically throw the sword away and then moments later accept it all gleefully from Sinon? I can't help but think something was vastly different between the VN and this anime adaption, and the director couldn't make it work.
    For whatever reason, they didn't mention that it was so heavy Kirito couldn't make the jump to get off the crumbling fortress.
    Seems like a weird thing to leave out of the adaptation.

    I'm not sure why everybody wants Klein to hook up with some AI...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles View Post
    For whatever reason, they didn't mention that it was so heavy Kirito couldn't make the jump to get off the crumbling fortress.
    Seems like a weird thing to leave out of the adaptation.
    It was implicated it was too heavy... for him to use like a sword? However, if he could throw it like that, he could have jumped with it as well. It's not like his arms would have more strength than his legs. He could have also tossed it to the folks already waiting on the back of the flying tentacle monster. Not to mention if it was so super heavy, there's no way Sinon could have hauled it back up so easily.

    Which is why I thought, when he threw it away, that he got rid of it because he wouldn't be able to use it like a sword in a fight. So, he wanted to level up considerably before claiming it again. But then Sinon retrieved it, and everything stopped making any sense whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles View Post
    For whatever reason, they didn't mention that it was so heavy Kirito couldn't make the jump to get off the crumbling fortress.
    Seems like a weird thing to leave out of the adaptation.
    They didn't need to mention it. It was straightforward. His hands were shaking from fatigue stating it was heavy, and he tosses it away with a sigh of regret immediately before making the jump. Not everything needs to be explicitly stated.

    The surprise is that Sinon appears to have higher Strength than Kirito. I suppose it makes sense, he also puts stats heavily in Agility, while Sinon needed higher Strength stats to lug around her enormous rifle in GGO. Her skills in ALO convert over, and she likely needs very high Strength to draw her specific bow.

    I honestly expected Liz to just take it and then make the jump. Blacksmith probably need very high Strength as well. Same with Mjölnir, Klein should have just given it to her. Poor Liz, always 3rd choice...

    It's really dumb that Asuna doesn't fight anymore. Definitely a, "Let's make her even more of the perfect wife archetype by making her a pure healing type." Blegh. Take the second or third strongest fighter in all of SAO and make her nearly a pure caster in ALO. Ridiculous. Asuna doesn't strike me as the type who would just stand by, she never had before. If anything Silica should be the support/healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Why exactly did Kirito so dramatically throw the sword away and then moments later accept it all gleefully from Sinon?
    I didn't get it either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Too bad for Klein her lady turned into a bearded Norse god.
    And a legendary weapon that he can't use.

    I mean, why wouldn't they just give the hammer to the chick that already uses a mace that shoots lightning? Wouldn't she be fairly proficient with it?


    I though there was going to be a swerve once Frejya turned out to be Thor in disguise. I'm like, "That doesn't sound like something Thor would do, that sounds like Loki", and it was going to turn out they were helping the badguy all along, especially when Thurm was all "Don't trust the Asguardians".

    But, none of that happened I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles View Post
    For whatever reason, they didn't mention that it was so heavy Kirito couldn't make the jump to get off the crumbling fortress.
    Seems like a weird thing to leave out of the adaptation.
    Ah, thanks for the explanation. That makes sense, even if it's dumb.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Klein getting kicked was utter nonsense.
    I don't see how it's any different from when any other character whacks someone on the head when they're giving them the business. It's just slapstick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    What I don't get is why asking an AI out that you've never talked to earns respect. That was just weird, even more so than the sword thing. At least that explains itself after some thought.
    Haha, I thought the same thing. "He just asked a computer on a date, and that makes you respect him? Pretty sure that's the opposite of what a real girls reaction would be."

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    god forbid klein could get a girl. and im not sure how heīll be able to contact her, kraco.

    also super weird that sword throwing scene. "itīs too heavy, away!", sinon gives it to him, "Thx!". okay.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    god forbid klein could get a girl. and im not sure how heīll be able to contact her, kraco.
    Skuld is a valkyrie, so he only needs to get himself killed in battle, bravely enough to be judged worthy. Though he would soon respawn, so it would be a very short reunion.

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    Sinon could only retrieve it because of the skill/magic she used.

    They really needed somebody to be a healer. I don't think she specializes in healing, but she's probably just the best on their team at it. Also, just because swordfighting was the only way to play SAO doesn't mean someone wouldn't try out other types of classes in a new game.
    And she's proven she'll run up and fight when she needs to.

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    Shinon wouldnt have HAD to retrieve Excaliber, if Kirito hadnt tossed it away like a retard 5 seconds before! lol It just doesnt make sense. Even if you say that Shinon or Liz or whoever had higher strength stats than Kirito (which is nonsense regarding Shinon, who is a SAO noob, and no, her GGO stats did not convert over, that was never mentioned), why would Kirito toss the sword instead of ASKING his dear friends to carry it for him?! Is he too proud for that or wtf?!? But the nonsense doesnt stop there. So Kirito was too weak to use the sword, alright. But when Shinon gives it to him, heīs all happy suddenly, no problems whatsoever.

    Itīs a clusterfuck of not making sense.

    And yes, itīd be awesome for Klein to hook up with an A.I. goddess. Hot virtual sex, while becoming the de-facto ruler over a whole virtual world.

    Reminds me of my least favorite scene: Kirito kicking Klein in the face when he was about to mention Kiritoīs popularity with girls. What was the, please? Like, does Kirito intentionally try to keep the girls from realizing about their own ridiculous fangirl behavior, cause he likes it? Was super weird.

    Im in cam "Klein is justified to become the final villain".

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    and no, her GGO stats did not convert over, that was never mentioned
    They don't have to mention it. Kirito's stats converted to GGO. All the games created from The Seed are compatible. Stated explicitly in the beginning of the GGO arc. A character loses all their money (not sure about items or equipment, Kirito must have put them in a bank or whatever) when they switch games. They retain all their stats cross-platform.

    Seriously, like I said in my last post, this show doesn't have to spell out every thing every single time. It's not hard to follow.

    It does have some level of continuity, even if the plot and characters are ridiculous.

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    SAO and ALO are the only exception and can be safely merged because ALO was a reskinned copy of SAO with the activated weapon skills temporarily disabled and with a spell system added. They are compatible to the point of interoperability.

    That's why the AI system Yui mentioned is still active. They copied it from an early build of SAO and it has been learning the same way Yui has been. Now it makes its own quests up and apparently modifies the world for new content.
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    Kirito is dual wielding those bigass swords. He must have plenty of points in strength or he would tire exceedingly fast and not deliver any damage at all using only a single hand per blade. So, I won't buy the claim saying he was lacking there compared to the others. There's also the thing called inertia which would have allowed him to jump easily carrying the sword if he had run some steps before jumping.

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    The sword was so heavy he basically couldn't jump at all. He threw it away because he knew of no way for anyone to take it with them as he didn't know about the bow magic skills. Maybe he was hoping if it cleared the rubble they could go pick it up later. Obviously he is happy to have it now, since by leveling up some more he can actually use it later.
    He is most certainly the strongest one there, nobody else could carry it and make the jump.

    I don't think this was very well represented/explained by the show, though.

    Klein being a serious villain is dumb. He doesn't even want any of these underage teenagers. He just likes to make fun of Kirito and hang out as friends.

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    He could hold the sword fine in his hands, when Shinon gave it to him. And even if he totally couldnt jump with it, he could have simply gotten on top of the flying tentacle elephant first, before it had flown away some bit. The thing could have just flown directly underneath him, too. So many options, all of which would have made actual sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles View Post
    Klein being a serious villain is dumb. He doesn't even want any of these underage teenagers. He just likes to make fun of Kirito and hang out as friends.
    Lol, Klein would love to bang Leafa or Shinon. I doubt heīs interested in Silica. But to ridicule him even more, this episode made a slight hint at Liz falling for him ... so the only girl Klein can get is the ugly one. :/

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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