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    Don't mind the jump in the relationship either but the transition from killing a person to going all lovey dovey just felt weird. Wish you'd have seen Kirito at least reflect on the fact that he just killed someone, this episode makes him come of as not caring one bit about it.
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    I thought it would have been more fitting for Kirito to remain an amputee. I'd have to try harder, which would only help Asuna fall for him more. It also adds to the relation as being a constant reminder (for the viewer) as to what Kirito was willing to sacrifice for Asuna.

    The red intent thing was weird, but what I liked even less was that the dual was set to stop when you hit yellow and not red. It's a large safety margin, but also only lets you fight until you're "bleeding", let's say, and not incapacitated.

    I'm still unsure about whether they had sex or not. You can say it's "implied", but Asuna could just be a nude sleeper for all we know.

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    How much are you willing to fool yourself to preserve the virginity of an anime girl?



    I am not belittling you. I am asking because had Asuna been a loli, I would do the exact same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    How much are you willing to fool yourself to preserve the virginity of an anime girl?
    I'm never comfortable calling out something as certain if I feel there's room for doubt, that's all.

    My physics teacher must have hated me during exams since I'd call his butt off his chair about 5 times per exam to clear up any doubts about the way he's worded a question.

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    That feeling (that there is room for doubt) is the self delusion I am talking about.




    Asuna is physically still a virgin anyway, so don't worry about it too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    but what I liked even less was that the dual was set to stop when you hit yellow and not red. It's a large safety margin, but also only lets you fight until you're "bleeding", let's say, and not incapacitated
    Actually it was in a first strike mode (at least in my watched sub), which would mean, I reckon, that the duel ends when the first real hit is made.

    Edit: Now that you mentioned not liking about something, I'd say I didn't like how Kirito fought like a mindless berserk without any sense or tactics. Who the hell taught him to keep targeting the shield? Even the father of all bad swordplay impressions, Error Flynn, wouldn't have done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    That feeling (that there is room for doubt) is the self delusion I am talking about.




    Asuna is physically still a virgin anyway, so don't worry about it too much.
    You know, it's weird. I've long been tainted with thoughts about anime characters having hot, steamy cuddles.. but somehow I can't ever fit that image with Asuna.

    Not even the plethora of doujinshi's out there can achieve that.

    So perhaps you're right and the doubt lies within me instead.

    On the other hand, why wouldn't they draw Kirito (half?) naked to seal the message? :S

    At least Nanoha was << getting dressed when she got out of the bed with Fate still sleeping in it>>.

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    Because getting dressed in SAO is just a matter of clicking a (UI) button.

    @Kraco - Kirito wasn't targeting the shield. The leader was simply blocking every single one of his attacks. The leader was moving his shield to block Kirito's attacks most of the battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I'm still unsure about whether they had sex or not. You can say it's "implied", but Asuna could just be a nude sleeper for all we know.
    LN answer: http://i48.tinypic.com/2v8041y.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    @Kraco - Kirito wasn't targeting the shield. The leader was simply blocking every single one of his attacks. The leader was moving his shield to block Kirito's attacks most of the battle.
    If you can't bypass that by dual wielding, you should drop dual wielding and grab the single sword with both hands and put more power to each swing. Otherwise you look like an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    This isn't a spoiler by any definition of the word.

    You're pathetic, Bill

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    That made me laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    If you can't bypass that by dual wielding, you should drop dual wielding and grab the single sword with both hands and put more power to each swing. Otherwise you look like an idiot.

    but its a game, and stats stay the same,

    dual wield > 1h

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    I'm pretty sure Asuna and Kirito had sex. The episode title leads us to think Asuna lost virginity too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I'm pretty sure Asuna and Kirito had sex. The episode title leads us to think Asuna lost virginity too...
    Virtual virginity. Technically her hymen is still intact.

    Maybe Bill can find some measure of peace on that fact alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    but its a game, and stats stay the same,

    dual wield > 1h
    Which brings us right back to the starting point of Kirito being an idiot by hitting the same spot with both swords.

    Conclusion: Kirito is an idiot who can only fight like a berserk.

    But then again, he still claimed the girl's virtual virginity, so who cares about one fight?

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    im not quite sure how dual wield works in RL but I can't imagine its possible to bypass such a huge shield without leaving urself open

    it was a back and forth in the beginning with both sides trading blows and parrying ...
    in the end when he activated his Starburst-stream thingy he even managed to push the commander's shield to the side, so his technique was effective after all

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    Conclusion #2: Kirito is great at pve but sucks at pvp.

    Edit: What Kray said makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    im not quite sure how dual wield works in RL but I can't imagine its possible to bypass such a huge shield without leaving urself open
    That's because dual weild generally doesn't work for longer weapons. European saber/rapier, but with a dagger offhand, Musashi's style (longsword and short sword), and stuff like handaxe/tomahawk and knife (both smaller weapons to start with). That's about it. There are a ton of southeast asian martial arts that use them, but again, smaller weapons like eskrima's rattan sticks.

    Longswords like Kirito's wouldn't work. They are too unwieldy in one hand, and would be very slow. His style is the thing of Dungeons and Dragons and other fantasy works. They don't have the mass to knock the shield aside and throw him off balance. A mace or hammer might do the trick. He could only ever get glancing blows in. Even his powerstrike was only so strong, it allowed Heathcliff to bring his shield back in line for a deflection. With a leaping attack, we notice, leaving Kirito even more off balance and without any leverage.

    Also note that Heathcliff uses his shield for bashing Kirito in the face, preventing him from getting the proper angles, he's not just absorbing blows. He also only has one strap in hand, not both attached to his arm. That decreases his defense, but opens up a lot more options for offense.

    Kirito's flashy style is horribly disadvantaged, that's probably why he challenged Kirito in that way in the first place.

    Good video on viking sword + shield fighting demonstration from a historian's perspective. A museum lecture. You get an idea why it was so common on the medieval battlefield, because it worked.
    Last edited by Ryllharu; Sun, 09-09-2012 at 06:36 PM. Reason: re-organization for better argument flow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    This isn't a spoiler by any definition of the word.

    You're pathetic, Bill
    The fact that it was something from the novel that wasn't "revealed" as actual fact in the anime means it qualifies.

    It's the same as all the other "spoilers" that people have been called out for in this thread when someone reveals a game mechanic/fact when it was still debatable in the way it was being presented.

    And since I didn't remember removing those out of the posts, I didn't remove it out of yours either. The only difference is that those "spoilers" are generally preceded by the words "Well in the LN..", which at least gave the reader an option to ignore it. As such, I offered readers the same opportunity in the above edit.

    edit: following up from Ryll, Japan's Nitouryu is the only style I know that dual wields longswords. It can work against a single katana wielder since it effectively lets you burst out two attacks in succession quickly from different angles, but also means you have to "reset" your stance afterwards. I can't see it being too effective against a shield, but I can't see a single sword being effective either.

    I suppose with two swords you can actually jab with one while threatening to strike with the other while you wait for an opening.
    Last edited by Buffalobiian; Sun, 09-09-2012 at 06:36 PM.

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