In regards to Tobi's age during his fight with the 4th.
Kakashi was 13 when Obito died. He was approximately 26 when the series started. Given that Tobi showed up on Narutos birthday, and Naruto is 12 at the series start, Tobi showed up APPROXIMATELY 1 YEAR after Obito "died"
Carrying on my recent post about Madara and Obito both acting as Tobi, yes Madara mentioned he knew who Tobi was.
If you take my point about the hair length, when Tobi fought the 4th, he had short hair, when Itachi approached Tobi, he had long hair (and is tall as fuck). The next time we see Tobi chronologically he has short hair again. Aside from Lee, Sakura & Ino who all cut their hair for a reason, nobody has really shown any difference in hair style at all. Kakashi probably hasnt cut his hair in 30 years.
Another thing, Tobi said to Konan that he's the one who told Yahiko to form Akatsuki, that would have happened before Obito even died..
This chapter really was a whole lot of nothing; I'm still waiting on that explanation kishi..
You guys are too vested in this story. I never understood why we get so upset over this stuff. I guess it just shows how much you all care about Naruto =)
I though the chapter was awesome. Seeing more of the adults as kids is great. Asuma looks cool! Kakashi yelling at Obito for being late...CLASSIC! Gai not remembering who Obito was in the third round...CLASSIC!
I am happy and enjoyed the chapter. We should see what the explanation will be next week before we go into too much. I mean we basically knew it was Obito. It has been pointed out so many times in the story. Having clarity is a good thing though. I like the reasoning of the masked man as a symbol, and that Obito was given it. That said, it could make since that we see the masked man through the Naruto time line and is just different people taking on the mantel. One time when they asked Tobi (or Obito we can call him now) who he was, he said it did not matter, and I guess that’s right. It might be Obito under the mask, but that does not matter. What matters is the reason they are fighting. What they are fighting for is what matters. Anyone can be a masked man.
As V points out in V for Vendetta, there is an inherent contradiction in asking a masked man what his name is. *Unless* that sucker is wearing the mask to hide some horrible deformity, do you seriously expect a straight answer from someone who is obviously and overtly trying to hide who he is?
Has anyone else here read Jim Butcher's Codex Alera? (Furies of Calderon, Academ's fury, cursor's fury... First Lord's Fury) You remember the holy shit moment when you realized that Tavi was so named because he was Octavian? Kishimoto has been teasing us with this reveal FOREVER.
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Can i quote that next week?
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$50 says b1gdawg is one of the Gotwoot regulars with a fake account. Although browsing through the Naruto threads for the past few weeks makes me wonder how this forum is still so gullible in 2012.
Wasn't Tobi said to be a former Mizukage at some point? I suppose it could of been a sharingan genjutsu or transformation technique, but that seems like a poor excuse.
SON OF A BITCH!
When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Here was a machine of precision and balance for the convenience of man. And (unlike subsequent inventions for man's convenience) the more he used it, the fitter his body became. Here, for once, was a product of man's brain that was entirely beneficial to those who used it, and of no harm or irritation to others. Progress should have stopped when man invented the bicycle. ~Elizabeth West, Hovel in theHills
Generally because they find fault with the character's motivations and the timeline of events, as well as feeling cheated from the diminishing returns of a second, true reveal of the villain's identity. Also because they obviously had a lot invested in their pet theories about who Tobi was and by the end were having to ignore a whole lot of stuff to not realize who it was going to be in the end, and cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
Nartopedia already combined both pages into one. making it impossible to read through the clues again.
although, MFauli, you're correct. Tobi debuted in chapter 280. and right away we started discussing the possibility of him being Obito.
It's the same mistake Kishimonto did with the 4th being Naruto's dad and the 9tails bonding with naruto. it happened too late in the story that people stopped caring, and were disappointed that all the wait was for the most obvious solution.
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Currently Watching: probably a show directed at 9 years old girls, lets be honest.
You know the important distinction between Batman and me? Batman is fictional. In real life, there isn't always an alternative.
I think I knew that Obito would be Tobi since we saw how Tobi was running Akatsuki. I mean the biggest clue for me was the eye that he gave up to Kakashi was covered up in his mask. Nothing surprising about this reveal.