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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post



    Maybe he's just a true patriot, you know! Anyway, it seems like Makishima really believes in what he's doing, so he's not doing what he's doing to be a jerk and make people miserable. He's trying to save his countrymen, after his own fashion. Like they say: One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
    He did suggest this in a previous conversation with the hacker (who was an immigrant), suggesting that Makishima did want to liberate Japan. Still, I'm not one for forcing views on other people. According to Makishima though, he surveyed a whole bunch of people and concluded that people actually DID want to be free of Sybil (at least, the sample that he toyed with anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    He did suggest this in a previous conversation with the hacker (who was an immigrant), suggesting that Makishima did want to liberate Japan. Still, I'm not one for forcing views on other people. According to Makishima though, he surveyed a whole bunch of people and concluded that people actually DID want to be free of Sybil (at least, the sample that he toyed with anyway).
    It seems to me, both politically and in business, that giving people what they seemingly want doesn't show particularly high statesman or businessman spirit. Looking back at the history, most notable figures have been those who followed their own path, ambition, and ideals, dragging everybody else along for the ride. Later people judged the person either a hero or a villain (or both, like I said earlier, quoting the old truth). Some existing states in a society can never be changed by following the whims of the masses, for good or for ill.

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    Episode 22:

    Shit's getting motherfucking realer than real! I wonder how many of them will be left alive before this is over. Gin will be at least, sporting a mechanical arm much like his pops.

    I'm curious as to why Makishima didn't go for the power, was he thinking ahead and wanted to thin out the herd before restarting his plan?

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    This is not disappointing !

    I hope things will keep on going like this for a couple more episode. I don't want the end to fall flat like Jormungand's

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    HS - Episode 22


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    Moral of story: Kick an explosive, Do not attempt to bend down, grab it, stand up, arch back, then throw.

    If you require more accuracy, then at least bend down and drag your arm as you approach the bomb so you can under-arm it on contact in your direction of travel. Armchair-expert advice of course.

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    Child is in imminent lethal danger, better calmly analyse the situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Child is in imminent lethal danger, better calmly analyse the situation!
    Those with the right instincts would pull it off, but it's not a common trait.

    If you don't have the instincts, you can develop the same response through habit (i.e. training), but I will agree that these futuristic police don't exactly train much anymore.

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    If he cared as little for his son as the son himself believed he did, he would have done exactly what you said. It was obvious that his personal feelings screwed his logic in that scenario.
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    As for the actual episode, i wonder if the way they keep bringing up Akane's strangely low psycho pass means she's also someone of interest for the Sybil system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    As for the actual episode, i wonder if the way they keep bringing up Akane's strangely low psycho pass means she's also someone of interest for the Sybil system.
    She certainly is. She's far beyond a loyal dog like Gino. I very much doubt too many people have been shown the underground chamber. In the end it's not like the Sybil could solely rely on their own brains in jars. It also needs people outside of the facility. Most are tools but considering how close Makishima & the foreign hacker got, I guess the Sybil judged it also requires collaborators who support the Sybil willingly for their own reasons. Who knows, Akane might thus get to keep her brain inside her skull.

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    In the end my only complaint is the predictability of the plot in the end. No surprises or twists, it all pretty much unfolded how we all assumed it would.

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    It felt right to me, I wanted Akane to stop Makishima and save him but I did not expect him to be killed especially after Kogami getting the Dominator locked in paralyzer.

    I love PP because it's so cold, that end begs for more and I couldn't be happier.

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    I would have liked something more than a "the world keeps going" ending for this show, but whatever.

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    This is what I expected, wanted, and got for the ending. Still, I want a sequel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    This is what I expected, wanted, and got for the ending. Still, I want a sequel.
    Only if Akane turns evil-Sybil.

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    It felt similar to watching the last episode of a (decent) slice of life show: Free of any passion, but not tasting bad either. They even made a special point of having the end reflect the beginning with the young n00b arriving straight to a crime scene, just like Akane did. Of course Akane has now seen more than most and by all means should be extremely jaded, but still continues the work. I guess that fits the final lesson of a society struggling to always develop itself, no matter how hard and slow the progress could be. Appropriately that actually goes for both Akane's idealistic vision of the future and the Sybil's strive to perfect itself and even get publicly accepted.

    Considering who wrote this, I wasn't really expecting anything to go according to Akane's wishes. The only thing I was unsure of is whether Kogami would survive or not. I'm glad he did.

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    I will admit that I was hoping for some GITS game-changing finale.

    Psycho-pass ceased to grow after Makishima revealed that he was an oddity in the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    This is what I expected, wanted, and got for the ending. Still, I want a sequel.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Considering who wrote this, I wasn't really expecting anything to go according to Akane's wishes. The only thing I was unsure of is whether Kogami would survive or not. I'm glad he did.
    Please no. Urobuchi Gen is already overrated. This started out decent, and turned into garbage. Not in an abrupt way all at the end like a Gainax Ending, but there was a clear point where the series stopped getting better, and just slid further and further downward. It ended with a bland whimper.

    They never should have made Makashima a direct participant.

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    I would agree that the first half of the show felt like it was building to something big and meaningful and the second half didn't pay off nearly as expected, but at the same time I can't say I didn't like what we did get and don't appreciate it. All in all I think it was a good show and worth the time spent watching and thinking about it.

    After a lot of pondering and trying to look back on the show through the lens of the first episode as the final scene reminded me to do, I realized that the only characters that really grew or changed in the whole series were Akane and Ginoza. When I think about everything that happened in just the terms of those two I find I like the show overall a lot more. Makishima and Kogami were like avatars of different ideologies fighting it out the 'old' way and while their battle was intense and interesting ultimately it was a traditional example of two sides who want opposing things battling it out the traditional way of get him before he gets you. Where the goods of the series seem to be though is in seeing how Akane and Ginoza, as products of and proponents for the third option represented by Sybil, dealt with and were changed by interacting with the traditional bad guy role played out by Makishima and the traditional good guy role taken up by Kogami.

    In the end Akane was not tempted into taking up one of the traditional sides and maintained her dedication to the third option despite much loss and angst. I'm not sure how to read Ginoza's shift but I'd like to believe that despite his crime coefficient going up he still believes in the ideals driving third option and is willing to help enforce them, but he's just become too aware now how ugly the world that the system is trying to cover up is to go back to just being another cog in the machine. Maybe he has the potential to become the another rogue like Kogami, but my hope is that he's become closer to the ideal Enforcer who can't be a part of the system proper but can still protect it from others who want to go against it.

    And then in keeping Kogami alive and free I think they were throwing a bone to the notion that as long as the system isn't perfect and people like Makishima can pop up you'll need Kogami's out there as well to try and counter them.

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