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    He isn't talking about you.
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    I assume he's talking about me, even though I don't read the manga, and that one thing I posted I only knew because it was announced across the ENTIRE internet in a "Guts is finally off the goddamn boat!" way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    What boat.
    I'll PM ya. I don't want to start a Berserk discussion here.

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    lol

    additional letters because you cannot make 3 letter postings

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    episode 16 is out
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    First of all: I call bullshit. Titan-transformation out of nowhere. Ok. So truly anybody could be a titan now. Makes everything kinda shitty :/

    Also, I really donīt know what to think of Rainer anymore. I was 100% convinced that he was the Armored Titan from episode 2/3. Now he looked like he really didnīt have any Titan-abilities. ALTHOUGH carrying that titan must have been at least close to superhuman strength. Hm ...

    I said it before, Iīll say it again: I want some answers. And I want them a couple of episodes before the finale, so that something can come from those answers.

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "out of nowhere". She clearly already knew she was a titan. She and Christa seem to be from...somewhere else. That has a completely different language. Most importantly, the titan Ymir turns into looks exactly like the one in Rainer's flashback. She's not very cool looking though...

    I did think it was funny that during that scene, they were talking about herring. Like referencing "red herring". Maybe Rainer's normal after all.


    I don't like these new tiny titans. Being able to get away through small spaces was one of the few advantages people had. These smaller ones that can just go in through doors seem like dicks.

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    Come on, you know what I mean with "out of nowhere". Basically, the series has put itself in a situation where EVERY character could suddenly reveal a special ability/past. Thatīs not good story telling.

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    I guess. But like I said last week with my BSG reference, that's been the case since the instant they revealed Annie was the female titan, it's not really a new development.

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    Predictable characters would be even worse though. I don't have any problems with this.
    After all, Annie Titan arc was the best arc in the series.

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    A group of humans that have been shown as human for years staying human is not what Iīd book under "predictable". A story can be unpredictable without pulling stuff out of its own ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    A group of humans that have been shown as human for years staying human is not what Iīd book under "predictable". A story can be unpredictable without pulling stuff out of its own ass.
    I don't think so... I don't even see this as an ass pull.
    Most of all, I don't understand why you'd consider it so. After all, you say Bertholdt and Reiner are Titans too. Their story is "normal" too and they came from some random ass hometown just like everyone else. That's what they say at least.

    The very fact that Eren was able to transform into a Titan made it a possibility. So, shall we complain about that then? He was shown living as a human for years too.

    It's not even like people don't suspect titans among them, the scouts took away their gear for a reason, remember?
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    Reiner and Bertholdt were never suspected to be titans in episode 2 or 3... thats complete BS.

    And what's bad story telling about there being a possibility that some characters have a special background story? I don't get it.

    Is Bourne identity a bad story because people could be double agents or agents in the first place?

    It's just part of the mystery that involves the titans and the "titan-walkers". It was relatively clear that Annie didn't work alone and it became even clearer now, with the appearance of the beast titan that there is more than just a mindless horde of titans that want to eat humanity.
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    As soon as both Rainer and the armored titan had been shown, people were speculating about it being him.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post

    And what's bad story telling about there being a possibility that some characters have a special background story? I don't get it.
    When "some" turns into "almost everybody", then it becomes bad.

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    Well, we are kind of assuming that Annie/Rainer, etc. were from normal villages inside the walls...but that doesn't have to be the case.

    We've been TOLD that there's no humans outside the walls, but there's no reason at this point to assume that's the truth. Their simple human villages could be outside the walls.

    Keep in mind that all these recruits joined after they lost the outer wall. Annie, Rainer, Ymir, etc. all could have come from outside when the wall fell, and then simply signed up for the Corps. It's not like they have background checks. If an entire city is wiped out one of the refugees from that city tells you they're from there, how do know they aren't? Especially if you don't know human titans are a thing, why would you even think to check?

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Reiner and Bertholdt were never suspected to be titans in episode 2 or 3... thats complete BS.
    Seriously. I don't remember anyone even suggesting the possibility of human titans until after Erin changed. If people were really suggesting that they were titans in episode 2, those people were manga readers.
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    Donīt be so disingenuous. Reiner and Bertholt were suspected to be titans from episode 2/3 on. Eren was eaten by titan and got a chemical injection from his scientist dad.

    Sure, we COULD assume that every character has some special background ... but thatīs what makes it bad story-telling imo.

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    Maybe on some other forum or something, but certaintly not here, because there isn't even a scene that would even suggest that.

    And how is it "everybody"?
    I don't expect Connie to turn out a titanshifter, nor did I expect the random Scouts.
    Do I think Sasha is one? No
    Do I suspect some of the main characters? Yeah, I do.

    Rainer has so much screentime, he has probably more minutes than Mikasa right now, to the point where people started to mention it when he didn't appear for 2 episodes.

    Ymir and Christa weren't exactly random noise in the background. Something was bound to happen with these two, at least Ymir was already a "get's eaten soon" candidate for me.

    On top of that, we have seen 3 Titanshifters right now. The beast Titan is most likely one too and so are the Colossal titan and Armored Titan. Considering that Eren's father injected something into Eren and Eren is the only Titanshifter out of the "main-crew" we can expect something like a virus, or gene modification etc.
    Now after what happened in Connie's town, we can be even more sure that Titans might've been humans once. That means, even if only 1 out of 1000 "injections" (or whatever that beast titan did) becomes a Shifter, we might see a few more comming up.


    And then there is Annie's training scene with her father, where he sent her off and said to her that it's okay to "hate the world and make everyone your enemy". Annie turned out to be a titan on a mission inside the walls. Guess her father knew about her condition? Did he send her? Did someone else send her?
    So what if that guy who sent Annie, send another 20 or so to spy and do stuff.

    Well, I don't know, I think it's part of the story and part of the build up we've been given so far.

    edit: talking about Ymir, didn't that talking titan (the one in season 1) call a human "Ymir's People"?
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    We know so little of the real background that even the ED seems enlightening. Considering this state of ignorance, it would make perfect sense even if there were 100 titanshifters among the city people. It seems strange to call it poor story writing before we know the story. The fact the walls are built of titans and that the priests seems to know a whole lot but can't tell anything suggest the current populace (including the main characters) doesn't know shit about their own circumstances or history, they only assume a whole lot.

    The herring can alone is quite interesting as obviously canned food is quite modern, yet the language was totally alien. Was it brought from outside of the walls, meaning there's another human civilization out there, or perhaps it's so old it was left by the wall builders? Perhaps there are other cities elsewhere, and those cities are actually ruled by titanshifters. For some reason this one city rejected titans (maybe they require totally horrendous sacrifices like cannibalism), apart from making the walls, and does hold some titan related key for who knows what effect. It would explain why the priest doesn't talk: Because this way of living isn't actually the only one and this city falling wouldn't mean the whole humanity going extinct. It's one thing to fight to the death thinking you are defending the whole species compared to fighting to the death only to defend the current rulers who decided how everybody should live.

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    episode 16 is out
    What episode 16?

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    I think the canned foods came from outside the wall and were left behind by wall-builders.

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    Episode 30



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    So much for Ymir. She wasn't especially formidable as far as titans go. Her background story might be more interesting, though. Was she from somewhere else where the relationship with titans isn't the same, but she was shunned there? That would explain why she said she and Christa are the same. On the other hand she might be from this same city if we assume the rulers know everything, including the foreign letters/language. Although in that case it would be strange they would have left Ymir at large.

    Christa should know everything with a name like that... But apparently she knows nothing. She could instead be directly tied to the history of the titans, through a bloodline, perhaps.

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