Yeah, but who cares? It's not like you don't know why they mean. You aren't like "Who's this Erin person? Is that a new character?"Originally Posted by MFauli
Yeah, but who cares? It's not like you don't know why they mean. You aren't like "Who's this Erin person? Is that a new character?"
episode 79:
Omg, hahaFantastic episode. Eren with some serios Light-energy. <3
The "Attack titan can see the future" is bs outta nowhere, ofc, but it's done so nicely, I allow it. It's so weird, creepy and cool how it actually makes sense that "past" Grisha can see and interact with future Eren and Zeke ... he knows Eren's future memory, so he "sees" how they're observing him in the past. Blows my mind thinking about it, haha.
Ofc, the biggest bs is that apparently time is a fixed matter in this world. Only then is it possible that an Attack titan-bearer would be able to see the memories of his FUTURE bearer. If time wasn't fixed, there'd be no way for this almost-time paradox to happen. I say "almost", because impressively there is no paradox as of now, despite some time travel shenanigans. Most stories with time travel fuck it up.
The actually biggest bs, of course, is Ymir and whatever power is even allowing Eren and Zeke to travel Grisha's memories. Is Ymir a literal goddess that can just do "magic"? I don't like that part, makes everything else kinda trivial, because why not do this or that when you can work magic. But it's the final season, so I'm not gonna question it too hard now.
Anyway, good episode, but I hope they can bring it to a satisfying end now.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
It is absolutely fucking NOT out of nowhere. They've been hinting at that shit for half the series!
Then link me a single post in this thread where you talk about it. Then I'll believe you.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Hey numbnuts, that's not how foreshadowing works. You don't understand what it is until it's been explained. But Erin has had weird flashes of shit in the past. They started out as a mystery. Then explained to be his dad's memories. And now explained that they weren't all the past.
That Eren inherited his dad's memories was explained to be part of becoming a titan bearer. NOW we know that this was more than that. But it was no foreshadowing.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
That's your issue?
The founding titan brainwashed all Eldians. Memory replay is easy mode.
What I found weird is that the Attack Titan bearers can only see certain memories - so who or how controls what it sees? It explains Eren Kruger naming Mikasa etc in his final moments, but for example - Grisha should have known that Freida can't be convinced so he should eat her anyway.
It's weird how it works, but anyway.. this is pretty damn tight.
The question is then, whether Eren sees his future if he is the final Titan. I assume he'd see other futures if he wasn't, but then the same logic applies - how much does he get to see, and who's deciding that?
Actually, now that I think about it, did he already have all of this worked out when he connected with Historia the first time? Remember that time is infinite and instant here, so he could visited all the memories and worked out the secrets of the Paths World all those years ago. Maybe Eren connecting with Historia is the sole reason that the Attack Titan holders had glimpses of memories - because during that moment he gave all the relevant people the flashbacks required. I didn't think he was that mature then but.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I think the reason why Grisha didn't know he had to eat Frieda was that he only know Eren's memories from when Eren was alive. Eren exists in some weird afterlife-like world right now. Grisha knew from living Eren's memories that Frieda and the rest have to be eaten. But when he arrived at the scene, he couldn't do it. NOW, dead Eren takes action in his "present" time and encourages Grisha to do it. You know the rest.
The question is: What state is Eren in and will he be able to return from there? Assuming he doesn't just stay in Ymir's afterlife, and assuming that I understood the attack titan bearer's future sight correctly, there needs to be some sort of "cut" so that it still all makes sense, otherwise Grisha would indeed have seen what he had to do already. Maybe, and I'm just throwing out this idea, Eren did die, but by some Ymir-shenanigans, he's being sent back as his own attack titan-successor. Just a random idea, though.
Also: Why did Frieda look like female Eren? Total genderbender, lol.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Kruger knew of Mikasa before he turned Grisha. At that point it was hinted that memories were not all from the past
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Thank you!
Here's me being concerned at the time about "time shenanigans". So they've been foreshadowing this for at least 2 1/2 years. That was pre-timeskip.
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Who is Kruger?
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
The spy who turned Grisha and gave the attack titan to him
You need to watch a recap or something.
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So, turns out that guy does a pretty good recap, and I'd also forgotten that the one time Eren manifested Coordinator powers was when he punched Dayna-Titan and got a glimpse of royal power.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Mon, 01-31-2022 at 04:48 PM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
You forgot THAT? That was like the massive seasonal climax where Eren's titan seemingly did something special for the first time!
...and then didn't do it again for, like, 3 more seasons before they explained why.
What did he do?You forgot THAT? That was like the massive seasonal climax where Eren's titan seemingly did something special for the first time!
...and then didn't do it again for, like, 3 more seasons before they explained why.
And yes, waiting years in between season does that to my memory ;/
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
So they establish that the Attack Titan always refuses to be ruled. But Eren says he's been that way since he was born. And we known the Attack Titan has the memories of its future users.
The implication being that Eren infected all the previous Attack Titan hosts with his rebelliousness. And is the reason they always rebl.
That's the moment he tried to human punch the titan that ate his mom, there was an electrical spark, and then all the nearby titans suddenly attacked her and tore her apart.
At the time, I thought that was the Attack Titan's special power. But we found out WAY later it was cause she had royal blood, so touching her let him use the Founder's power.
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An excellent twist this episode as Zeke paraded Errand around these memories trying to dissect just where he was brainwashed by Grisha only to slowly realize that he had pretty much always had a few screws loose and was willing to kill for his freedom. Finding out that not only did the attack titan give future memories, but that Grisha had been staring down based Eyron during those pivotal scenes as well was a delightful recontextualization of what we thought we knew about events thus far, including the killing of the Reese family. Little details getting glossed over have a way of coming back to bite the viewer's behind in Attack on Titan, and I love it.
Brilliant.
I didn't think of that. If he appeared to dear 'ol dad, it makes sense that he would to previous holders as well.
No doubt the rumbling is coming, with that warning Grisha gave out.
"Screws loose" for "willing to kill for his freedom"? That's a pretty good reason in the realm of reasons imo.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
If he were rational, yes. But Eren is consistently portrayed as being pretty unhinged.
Good intensions doesn't really excuse acting like a rabid dog.
He grew up in a world where it's normal that gigantic humanoid monsters eat you when they get near you. I think he was pretty well adjusted for that.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
He grew up on the other side of walls that prevented him from being exposed to any of the titan business until the wall fell. It didn't have any impact on him at the time he had already demonstrated the ability to kill without remorse or hesitation. He was always high functioning psychotic.
The fate of the world being in his hands is the most chilling thing so far. I only hope the small remaining tethers to humanity (friends and loved ones, if any) can stave off his wrath if his power is as great as hinted at.
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