It'd be too instinct-driven if all they did was try to kill titans. It'll be like a hunt. Their current objective is to recapture land, learn more about the titans or lure out the traitors. I'd say it's "all of the above" if they had their way. It's certainly not a "let's just go outside and cut titans for a day".
They want to win against the titans, not just take a few down. First and foremost however, they need to find the guys who keep knocking down their walls.
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Doesn't seem to me they are doing awfully lot on that front. Unless you count wasting their time giving lectures to the enemy in the enemy territory.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
They were wondering how they will be received upon their return after this fiasco. I hope very harshly indeed. Not that the people inside were any better, but still. This was a reckless and costly operation they plainly failed to carry out till the end. Unless Eren saves the day like a real shounen hero before the end.
But not killing all those titans in that situation in no way hinders any of those objectives, and could possibly further them.
I'm with Kraco. It was free attacks on a huge pack of Aberrants, and possibly preventing the female's escape as well. There was no reason NOT to do it.
I expected another intelligent titan like the Armored one to show up and free her, especially once she screamed.
I was pretty close.
And also diamond hands. Don't forget diamond hands.
Speaking of which, if she can turn part of her body super hard, why not just do the back of her neck?
Seemed like it was temporary. Diamond skin should also impact on flexibility, something that the female titan seems to use with her cqc. Batman in The Dark Knight requested a suit that allowed him to turn his head at the expense of overall defence.
They weren't really Aberrants. They were normal guys who responded to the female titan's scream. My understanding is that they all respond that way.But not killing all those titans in that situation in no way hinders any of those objectives, and could possibly further them.
I'm with Kraco. It was free attacks on a huge pack of Aberrants, and possibly preventing the female's escape as well. There was no reason NOT to do it.
And as for the reason not to kill those things, they said before that the key to fighting titans is to NOT fight them. The soldiers were bait, just like in the mission where they tried attracting all the titans to the corner of the wall so Eren could move the boulder - they don't want unnecessary casualties. Killing titans, as far as they knew, didn't help their cause, but increases the chance of people dying while doing so.
Keeping the titans at the edge of the forest enhanced their visibility of the titans while leaving no trees for them to use for offence. If they wanted to kill them they would have had to bring them into the forest some more. Reducing visibility meant a higher possibility for a titan to have walked past them undetected, sabotaging the plan.
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Well, they called them aberrants, like, twice. So I'm just taking their word for it.
I just, I don't agree, I guess. Seems like free titan kills to me. As long as they continued to ignore them, there was no reason not to be putting them down. Everyone you kill now is still going to be one less to fuck up some other plan in the future.
So all the titans outside that were previously normal just became aberrants? They based that comment on the fact that they didn't act like how the humans expected normal titans would. The key here is that they never knew normal titans had a hard-wired KILL-THE-BOSS command.
Are you talking about where Erwin told the troops to back off from the Titans who were attacking the female titan? Or how he told the recruits/soldiers to stay at the forest's edge?
I just, I don't agree, I guess. Seems like free titan kills to me. As long as they continued to ignore them, there was no reason not to be putting them down. Everyone you kill now is still going to be one less to fuck up some other plan in the future.
If it was the latter, the titans weren't ignoring the soldiers. That's why the soldiers worked as bait.
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I don't remember them ever showing that all the titans outside had left. Just that a bunch of titans suddenly ran past them.
I don't think it was clear whether it was the same titans, or a new group showing up.
This, as I assumed this is what Kraco was talking about as well.
You have this big group of titans, completely ignoring the humans while eating the female titan. There's no reason not to use that opportunity to kill all of them, and maybe prevent the female from escaping at the same time.
Allow me to laugh: Hahahahahaa! Which part of this arc exactly gave you an honest feeling of avoiding unnecessary casualties? I'm with Eren all the way through: This was an exceedingly cruel mission where a single objective was attempted to be reached, no matter how high the casualties. The border troops doing nothing but comfortably sitting on their hands was the one and only instance of anything trying to keep the death list shorter. And the operation itself paid the price, rather ironically, because that meant there was a full horde of giants right next to the forest to suddenly run in.
Yeah, that sounds just fine theoretically, but the episode itself doesn't support your claim. We saw clearly enough the edge they were "holding" wasn't always the very last trees. And even if it was, if they had had any interest in the enemy, they could have maneuvered easily back and forth and taken down titans left and right, like the one climbing between two trunks.
There's simply no forgiving the last decision to drop fighting the titans. Not only did it allow the titan controller escape (if he/she was able to escape so easily from the very midst of the titans' attention, the level of danger wasn't much), but it also meant all those people had died for nothing but a couple of scraps of information, nothing more. Erwin is not just a man who can abandon everything, he's a man who can abandon everything and spit on the graves of those he abandoned. And somebody should tell him that.
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