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    The story as advertised to other nations at least, is that the Eldians ruled over all with their titan powers until they were defeated and the powers split up into nine. "Eldian Empire" sounds a lot like world domination in this context.

    Obvious parallels here if Nazi Germany, but the Jews didn't have within them the power to transform into titans, so I'm not surprised that the rest of the world can get on board the hate-train - especially now that Eren stomped out a good number of foreign delegates seemingly unprovoked.

    Falco's got his work cut out for him if he's going to save the world from... this. His only advantage is that he hasn't become a little ball of hate, somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Obvious parallels here if Nazi Germany, but the Jews didn't have within them the power to transform into titans, so I'm not surprised that the rest of the world can get on board the hate-train - especially now that Eren stomped out a good number of foreign delegates seemingly unprovoked.
    Except for the part where Marley is the one MAKING the Titans. Like, the Eldians don't just become titans on their own. They become Titans because the Marleyans inject them with Titan juice to turn them into weapons.

    It's like if the world feared Jews because they were also nukes, but the Nazis were the ones turning them into nukes and launching them at people.

    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Falco's got his work cut out for him if he's going to save the world from... this. His only advantage is that he hasn't become a little ball of hate, somehow.
    Falcon's heel turn is dependent on what happens to Gabbi. It's obvious she's the one he cares about, and if something happens to her, that's the thing that will send him into a hate spiral.

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    With technological progress, Marley will eventually invent the atomic bomb, and then it's over for Paradis.
    I mean, you're metagaming there. Atomic bombs might never be invented, and they certainly wouldn't KNOW that a thing they can't even conceive of is going to be invented.

    But you are right that technology WILL surpass the Titans eventually, and they probably WILL come for them.

    Of course...the solution there is to...also progress your technology, and not rely on the Titans for your defense.

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    But how can Paradis even begin to think they could win a war against THE WHOLE WORLD? And making peace isn't really easy either, because non-Eldians wouldn't want to live among people that might transform into deadly giants any given second.
    Aren't the walls made up of, like, a million near-colossal Titans that the entire reason Paradis was left alone was because the Founder could wake them up and wipe out the world at any time?

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    non-Eldians wouldn't want to live among people that might transform into deadly giants any given second.
    Again, though, that...doesn't happen. Like, nobody inside the walls ever just spontaneously transformed into a Titan.

    The Titans were all outside the walls, and they were there because the Marleyans kept making them and SENDING them there. If you don't have people running around injecting Eldians with needles full of Titan fluid, you don't have people turning into Titans.

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    It's like they all full well know "this is gonna end soon and we're not gonna live through it".
    Well, Armin and Erin DO know that. They're Titan shifters. Which means they're dead in a couple years regardless. And then Mikasa is all depressed because, well, the only two people in the world she cares about are dead in a couple years regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Except for the part where Marley is the one MAKING the Titans. Like, the Eldians don't just become titans on their own. They become Titans because the Marleyans inject them with Titan juice to turn them into weapons.
    I don't think the world at large understands the mechanisms of how Eldians turn into titans. Marley has no reason to explain it, and even if they did, the danger they (Eldians) possess remains, so others may be wary and resentful of them as a people. Zeke was shown being able to shout out and create titans spontaneously (during the air drop in the first episode this season and off screen in season 2, unless you believe he individually held down and syringed Connie's whole village), so what if other Eldians can do that, or what if you don't know any better because you aren't privy to Marley's military secrets and just assume they can do that to themselves? I certainly believe they are rightfully afraid now theat they have struck the mainland.

    Also, it would seem this entire conflict so far is of Erin's independent actions. He knew the scouts had to come get him, so he set up the stage to strike where he could accomplish the most of his goals (whatever those are/were; likely claiming the warhammer titan) before he is restrained by his own people.

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