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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    I mean when is "The Final Season", season 3?!
    I wanna know when "The Final Season - The Final Part" is. >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I wanna know when "The Final Season - The Final Part" is. >_>


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    DarthEnderX: "Reasons and motivations? GTFO, lol!"
    There is no reason or motivation in existence that justifies what he's planning to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    There is no reason or motivation in existence that justifies what he's planning to do.
    Team Mikasa/Armin want to commit genocide against Eldians "for the greater good".

    Team Floch/Eren defend Eldians pro-actively by killing everyone else, because "everyone else" can't stop themselves from attacking Eldians.

    If you want to say "there are no morally good sides here, everyone is wrong/right to some degree", that'd be okay. But painting Mikasa/Armin as the good guys and Floch/Eren as the bad guys, that's just insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Team Mikasa/Armin want to commit genocide against Eldians "for the greater good".
    Blatantly false. Not genociding everyone else isn't genociding the Eldians.

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    Team Floch/Eren defend Eldians pro-actively by killing everyone else, because "everyone else" can't stop themselves from attacking Eldians.
    Blatantly false. The Hizuru already don't want to kill them. And everyone else really only wants to kill them because of the Marleyans. If you topple the Marley regime, you can reason with the rest of the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    If you want to say "there are no morally good sides here, everyone is wrong/right to some degree", that'd be okay. But painting Mikasa/Armin as the good guys and Floch/Eren as the bad guys, that's just insane.
    I mean, we can do that if you want. But Mikasa/Armin are, like, a 2/10 on the villainy scale and Floch/Eren are an 11/10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Blatantly false. Not genociding everyone else isn't genociding the Eldians.
    The anime presents 2 options. Floch and Eren choosing to save Eldians from attacking others is not evil.

    Blatantly false. The Hizuru already don't want to kill them. And everyone else really only wants to kill them because of the Marleyans. If you topple the Marley regime, you can reason with the rest of the world.
    Again, the anime presents 2 options. The Hizuru are a tiny, as we learn unimportant group. There is no hint from anyone that only Marleyans want to kill Eldians. And even if not killing, there's still enslaving.

    I mean, we can do that if you want. But Mikasa/Armin are, like, a 2/10 on the villainy scale and Floch/Eren are an 11/10.
    You have it backwards.

    From the pov of the Eldian heroes:
    - Mikasa/Armin choose to help genocide their own people for the greater good of a future world.
    - Floch/Eren choose to genocide the rest of the world to defend their own people from being eradicated.

    Basically, Floch/Eren are like the Jews in 1943, except they got titans.
    Last edited by MFauli; Mon, 12-26-2022 at 11:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    The anime presents 2 options.
    No, the anime's worst characters present 2 options. Anyone over the age of 7 is supposed to be able to tell that they're wrong.

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    Basically, Floch/Armin are like the Jews in 1943, except they got titans.
    Correct. They're like if the Jews in 1943 got titans, and instead of using them to defeat the Nazis, they used them to genocide every non-Jewish person on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    No, the anime's worst characters present 2 options. Anyone over the age of 7 is supposed to be able to tell that they're wrong.

    Correct. They're like if the Jews in 1943 got titans, and instead of using them to defeat the Nazis, they used them to genocide every non-Jewish person on the planet.
    1.) Meant to write "Floch/Eren".

    2.) No, the analogy is that the whole world is nazis, just like for Jews in German KZs, there was only nazis surrounding them.

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