Log Horizon

[Xelbair]

I'm pretty sure that he wants to buy the whole guild building.

[MFauli]

maybe he plans to make good food available for free after some time, or use it as an example of what joys people get to experience in a peaceful, friendly world, contrary to the current mistrust everyone seems to have against each other. Then he´s like "if you want this game to be fun, give us your money and we´ll buy the guild building to set proper rules in place". Well, worded better and more convincing than that lol.
Though I´ll admit that it sounds awefully naive to expect other people to give up their money just like that.

Maid Akatsuki was nice, though the way Henrietta described the zone rules inside her guild rooms, it made me think "oooookay, so this is where guild members get to rape visitors" :|

[Archangel]

I'm pretty sure that he wants to buy the whole guild building.

I'm seconding this, that's what the last shot seemed to be telling us.

[Kraco]

Episode 8 - HS




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This was a pretty damn crafty plan. While the front of a restaurant business actually was made possible by the pure coincidence of the catman having been investing in the cooking skill and having happened to try to make food the realistic way, not using in game recipes and shortcuts, it can't be said Shiroe wouldn't have had brilliant wits to put it to use in the most grandiose manner imaginable. I do have a slight feeling the merchant guilds did agree with too few questions asked, but it wasn't totally out there either. There were three of them present, none of them wanting to lose to the other two. So, Shiroe was counting correctly on their greed getting the better of them.

I wonder what kind of faces the guild leaders will make when they realise their money was used to buy the guild building, which they are also dependent on. Still, an investment is an investment. I doubt Shiroe will treat them badly afterwards. It wouldn't make sense to try to topple an evil reign to replace it with another.

I'd like to watch Akatsuki getting fondled by Shiroe rather than the treasurer.

[shinta|hikari]

I'd like to watch Akatsuki getting fondled by me rather than the treasurer.

Indeed..

[Archangel]

Megane adjusting simulator 2013

[Kraco]

Episode 9 - HS





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Last time I said I want to see the faces of the merchants when they hear where their money went, they took it pretty graciously all things considered, but now I want to see the face of that one smug combat guild leader who left the council before hearing the whole story. As much as the others feel they are at Shiroe's mercy, they still have his ear and probably can count on having their votes matter, but this one dude... I wonder how he's going to explain it to his guild. He basically left his guild members at the mercy of their competitors. I doubt there's going to be much corruption or anything like that for the time being, but the prestige lost alone is pretty funny. If Shiroe intends to place a whole bunch of laws upon the town, the douche lost even his chance to affect those. I foresee his guild losing members, the others gaining.

Well played, Shiroe, all in all. But I really hope he will soon take his gang and seek an adventure or two with badass fights. All these politics and talks are getting heavy and leave poor Akatsuki no chance to shine (I don't count forced cosplay as shining... Well, I do, but I also want different kind of shine).

[MFauli]

rather than badass fights, I want a true danger/menace to appear. We already discussed how the lack of death changes things, but it also makes it boring. If it really stays like that, death being a non-issue, then the only bigger danger could be an anti-Shiroe, who wants to ruin Shiroe´s plans. Who wants to ruin this virtual world. Which, ultimately, would be boring, too, since with everyone keeping being to resurrect, it´d be an endles fight for like 70 years, until their real world-bodies die. Or it´d be some boring rally of buying up all buildings in this world to gain control over various parts.

meh

[shinta|hikari]

I think the main issue is why they are stuck there, and how tn get out. I wish that plot point advances a little.

[Ryllharu]

Has anyone else here considered the idea that they're not stuck? This isn't a scenario like sword art where they are all told they are prisoners and given a quick news feed to corroborate it. Maybe if years go by and we see one of them freeze or go AFK meaning their real body died...but who is to say their real bodies are even still attached?

Maybe they were just downloaded into the game, and their real bodies are carrying on with their normal lives.

This kind of information blackout leads to those other potential scenarios. I personally find the focus not being how they escape, but how they are gently forcing people to make a decent life for themselves within the game to be more interesting. They're establishing civilization. Once Akibahara is settled, we'll probably see a war with one of the other cities.

[shinta|hikari]

That is indeed interesting but it has not been developed yet. Some events that foreshadow that would make the reveal
much better.

[Kraco]

How do we know they actually aren't in the game physically already? It seems like they don't exactly feel that different, and the only manifested differences we have seen are the immortality (with no spilled guts) and the UI, also the skills if you want to count them. Has it been addressed if they need to eat or if they are just forcing themselves to eat? If I understood correctly from the first episodes, it wasn't any fancy VR game in the first place like SAO. It was a regular picture on screen, audio from speakers, and control with mouse+keyboard kind of game. So, their bodies might not be left behind anywhere.

I guess that's the more unlikely alternative, but I can't recall any evidence against it either. It's an information blackout like Ryll said, after all.

[MFauli]

so akihabara is established for now.

two things on my mind right now:

- I hope we´ll see a true romance between Shiroe and Akatsuki. I kinda have the fear that they´re already caught up in a typical friend-relationship, though.

- Do we know what happens to People of the Land when they´re killed? Do they respawn?

Also, not sure what I think about the PotL having real feelings and such now. It paints all the players as extremely shallow not to have noticed this before, other than Shiroe and cowtits-girl. I guess they´re all of the boring kind of mmorpg-players, only playing to do silly grinding and fighting, and not playing for immersion and escapism :P

[Kraco]

Episode 11 - HS





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The obligatory beach episode came and went, but we never saw Akatsuki in a swimsuit. But then again, it's Akatsuki we are talking about, so there wouldn't really be anything to see there with her undeveloped child's body, so it's okay she skipped it.

Anyway, this is a getting interesting with the NPCs. I didn't really see this coming when the show launched, even though this is obviously something that makes this story worth animating so soon after the (largely undeserved) SAO hype. After all, this really set this show apart from the likes of SAO, which was all about the players. I doubt this Elder Tales had too exceptional NPCs when it was still a regular game, so this must be the biggest difference since the apocalypse.

If you look at this from the perspective of crafting (or cooking or any other physical activity made possible by the RL likeness of this game), which was the focus a while ago, then Shiroe should also realise sooner or later that the quest items granted by NPCs might not be coming out of nowhere either, anymore. It would make sense they would now be crafted by the NPCs similarly PCs can craft stuff from basic material, should they possess the technical skill and also the wits to do it (after all, you must know the theory of a steam engine to build one, in addition to being able to work iron and other metals).

[shinta|hikari]

But then again, it's Akatsuki we are talking about, so there wouldn't really be anything to see there with her undeveloped child's body, so it's okay she skipped it.

Are you insane?

[MFauli]

somehow i have really hard time accepting that those npcs are now conscious beings. we went from being trapped inside a game to real A.I.s.

[David75]

I'm wondering what the menacing shadow was.

[Archangel]

I'm wondering what the menacing shadow was.

Rare spawn maybe? Or an event.

[Kraco]

I'm wondering what the menacing shadow was.

Maybe it was finally something related to the latest expansion, something which allows people to level up. And above all something that will bring action back to the show.

Are you insane?

Nah. I'm just trying to cope with the fact she missed it and tell myself it didn't matter.

[Buffalobiian]

I really don't care about seeing any PCs escaping from the world. Trying to live inside it is so much more entertaining. And if you can give real people a digital life, I'd say you can give digital AIs a real consciousness simply because the creator must be talented.

How do we know they actually aren't in the game physically already?

Like a certain anime? The first episode had Akatsuki readjusting her height. It's also hard for me to comprehend death-revive-teleports as being a physical phenomenon, so I think this is still all virtual.