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    Well princess is sure to join Crusty's guild, so I don't think it's particularly weird given how human they act already. It's just weird that Rudy knows about spells and cooldowns and really isn't cautious enough about not dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Well princess is sure to join Crusty's guild, so I don't think it's particularly weird given how human they act already. It's just weird that Rudy knows about spells and cooldowns and really isn't cautious enough about not dying.
    Oh shit you're right, and in the opening there's a scene of him on the floor with freckles crying her eyes out...!

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    Like I've said before, I've enjoyed every scene of Crusty courting the princess. They make such a funny pair. However, I haven't enjoyed too many of the scenes where the kids are struggling to fight some lousy skeletons. The worst parts are Minori reporting very bloody detail to Shiroe with no humour whatsoever, even though I admit those scenes were highly realistic since that's exactly what a kid would do in such a situation, thinking their report is the most important thing in the world. Judging by those scenes, Shiroe would already be easily mature enough to become a father. He should get it on with Akatsuki. While Akatsuki might not yet be quite there for the role of a mother, she's so caring that the nine months would probably do the trick.

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    Am I the only one thinking that this show could also server as a generic MMORPG advertising?

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    "No enemy patrols sight!"

    awww... useless piece of ****

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    Seriously.

    It was like those kids were learning the most basic tactics in MMOs. I might forgive them in other circumstances, but they're all at least level 20. What player doesn't know how to pull by level 5? Also, pulling isn't an advanced tactic. Its what you do when you are fighting mobs too strong for your own group (which they weren't, the right side of the dungeon was their level or lower), or to get the followers off the boss.

    That's where I can agree with Kraco's frustration. Minori is aggravating to listen to, reporting the most mundane things as if they were amazing. I expected her to actually take charge of their group, not just have a conference and then be the godforsaken lookout. She's the defender-type support class, she should be filling the same role that Shiroe does in his battles, being the tactician. Or alternatively, the bard girl could do the same. The way it came off, it looked like Minori did absolutely nothing while the others did all the work.

    Then again, this is Japan, the country where MMO players are known to stand in queue for their turn to farm "get X number of animal hides" quests. Someone probably does play lookout when they are doing group quests.
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    This is certainly interesting. So there'd be factions of monsters who invade as well? At least that's what I thought of when I saw the end of the episode. Since there used to be massive wars against monsters and there was 'peace' for a long time. Now the monsters are starting a war?

    Also Rudy, didn't see that one coming. The dude is a freaking NPC.

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    I'm thinking that Elder Tale was a really easy MMO and that a lot of things were automated, which meant that these dummies were able to muddle to level 20s without proper knowledge or tactics. Then all of a sudden, all that automated stuff was gone, and they had to use their physical bodies to do stuff, which in turn made the game quite difficult. For example, looking for enemy patrols, isn't looking at a radar where red dots appear, but actually straining your eyes and ears to see enemies in the dark caves.
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    HS - Episode 16


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    I'm going to go along the "Rundel Haus died too many times" idea that's been mentioned now. Perhaps when you lose all of your memories of the real world you truly become an AI and therefore will never revive again. Minori, Isuzu and Serara all pissed me off more or less this episode. Isuzu annoyed because she's defaulting all responsibilities to the adults and is trying not to take part (she has a hunch on what's causing Rundel Haus's problem, but still). Minori left the group while pretending to help people evacuate. If you're going to engage enemies, at least tell the main party. As they said you're free to do whatever so lying doesn't help anything here. I also think she's overestimating herself. Serara's "don't fight" doesn't help anything either. Debating means laying the problem open to solve. Shutting people up doesn't accomplish anything.

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    You're gonna make a terrible father Bill, way too harsh on kids.

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    I think there's a bit of a game vs reality conflict going in those kids' head. Well, not only theirs as I doubt quite a few of the adults haven't either really swallowed yet the this is now our reality mentality. What Minori's young group did wasn't overly strange if you keep that in mind. Their righteousness overrides their fear of death. The bigger picture doesn't really need to be mentioned as they would be only vaguely aware of that, even if those ambiguous feelings might still propel them to do the right thing. Assuming getting better along with the people of the land is the right thing, like one would assume. It's actually quite nice to see the difference between those who claimed themselves authority (Shiroe & others of the round table) and these kids. The latter are definitely how players in a normal game would be, the former are already thinking almost like politicians in RL, even though they are all supposed to be adventurers. In the end, like they admitted themselves, if they had kept acting like adventurers (players), this whole situation wouldn't even be upon them.

    Marie is bloody useless. How on earth did she ever gain XP to level up? Using some useless skills solely, no doubt. She must be some housewife who was only killing her boredom in the game for years but isn't really a gamer in the sense she would have chased tough quests, new monsters, new places, and new equipment.

    I'm really looking forward to seeing what the princess has in mind. I hope she has a good quest to offer to Crusty, with a nice reward (such as herself), haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Marie is bloody useless. How on earth did she ever gain XP to level up? Using some useless skills solely, no doubt. She must be some housewife who was only killing her boredom in the game for years but isn't really a gamer in the sense she would have chased tough quests, new monsters, new places, and new equipment.
    I wouldn't be so quick to cut Marie short. A lot of the other high level adventurers are scared of her, and her strength is abnormal.

    I think she's really just too concerned about the young player's well-being. I'm quite certain that she is older than her avatar would lead you to believe. I wouldn't be surprised if she was a woman with grown children. Her concern was young player's safety first and foremost, anything else is secondary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    I think she's really just too concerned about the young player's well-being. I'm quite certain that she is older than her avatar would lead you to believe. I wouldn't be surprised if she was a woman with grown children. Her concern was young player's safety first and foremost, anything else is secondary.
    All characters look like their real selves in-game, wasnt that established when Akatsuki was force-transformed back into her real self?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    All characters look like their real selves in-game, wasnt that established when Akatsuki was force-transformed back into her real self?
    This isn't SAO. Akatsuki only gained her real (?) looks after she consumed that transformation bottle. She had the body of a big man before that, and regretted it quite badly, as her voice was still that of a cute girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    This isn't SAO. Akatsuki only gained her real (?) looks after she consumed that transformation bottle. She had the body of a big man before that, and regretted it quite badly, as her voice was still that of a cute girl.
    Those are her real looks, since her reasoning was that being so big was hard to move. It wasn't a problem when the game was being played with keyboard and mouse, but it was when they were living it character.

    As for never speaking, well I suppose she never caught on to using voice changers.

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    I don't remember exactly but wasn't the problem for Akatsuki and Shiroe that they were so much taller than their real life counterparts? Think they talked about it being akward and hard to move around, for example I think Shiroe bumped into things or triped a lot in the first episode. So Akatsuki wanted a potion to change her gender and changed her height to reflect her real height but I don't remember them mentioning anything about her irl looks.

    Edit: Checked the first episode again, Shiroe mentioned that their game characters did resembled their real life bodies to some degree. Though how much is probably hard to say seeing as Akatsuki was way taller than her real life body and the wrong gender at first and Nyanta probably doesn't look anything like that irl.
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    By looks I meant height, I suppose. That's the only requirement she was really looking at (and the sex change to not be weird).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Those are her real looks...
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    By looks I meant height, I suppose. That's the only requirement she was really looking at (and the sex change to not be weird).
    That cheap excuse won't save you! Just admit you made a mistake.

    I'd find it hard to believe a significant portion of the players wouldn't alter their looks in the game to a degree, even if they, for some reason, based it on their RL looks, narcists aside. In the first place they are in a fantasy setting, which tends to beg for different styles compared to our contemporary one, especially in Japan were conformity is so big. Though clearly this show wanted to suggest many copied they RL exterior since quite a few wear glasses. Maybe they are only for style, who knows, as I can't imagine a single reason why anybody would want such a weakness in a combat heavy game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    That cheap excuse won't save you! Just admit you made a mistake.
    Yeah. Typo indeed. xD

    Personally I just associate the players with their real looks (plus racial features such as elf ears and cat furs) just to make things easy since it also doesn't matter what they look like in real life.

    As for glasses, that's based more on character design than combat logic. Glasses = smart!

    It's also necessary to pull off the reflective-deceptive look. The alternative white-eyed, wicked-smile look isn't nearly as good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireheart View Post
    and Nyanta probably doesn't look anything like that irl.
    the big twist is going to be that Nyanta looks EXACTLY like that irl!

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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